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So retail orders may close next week but dealers will still be able to place stock orders going forward? That seems a bit weird.
I feel like this is the opposite of what Ford was saying previously. This seems to state that Ford prefers to sell cars through the dealers rather than customer orders. Over the last year, we kept hearing the opposite.
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Wow, but dealers can still submit for stock orders after the retail order banks close. The ADMs this year are gonna be even worse than last year.
our dealer only had a few 2022 ever on the lot at $3000 ADM ,but they (they have 8 dealers) show 4 used and they all are about $10,000 over what they sticked for.
looks like the only way a person can get it close to sticker is order one, and now they are going to stop that too, in a week!! Ford keeps the PR to a all time LOW,our family has had over 40 fords/Lincons/mercourys ,Im about done with them. SAD!
 

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I feel like this is the opposite of what Ford was saying previously. This seems to state that Ford prefers to sell cars through the dealers rather than customer orders. Over the last year, we kept hearing the opposite.
Ford doesn’t have the commodities to build 100% retail orders. They need to leave some to stock to build less popular configurations to use up the parts they have already bought from suppliers. All orders go through dealers. Retails are preferred as they turn faster.
 

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I feel like this is the opposite of what Ford was saying previously. This seems to state that Ford prefers to sell cars through the dealers rather than customer orders. Over the last year, we kept hearing the opposite.
I am sure Ford is just trying to minimize how many customers they commit to. Better to not be able to fulfill a dealer order than a retail customer order if the supply issues get worse.
 

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So now we are going to have 2022 order holders miss out on getting a 2023, AND then miss out on their price protection offer as well. Yikes
 

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I’m on the side that thinks this is a constraint issue. I think Ford is noticing their plan isn’t aligned with orders at all - I bet the split is like 70/30 Hybrid/Gas, 60%+ want CP360, XL is popular, Lux is on the majority of orders, etc. And they know their constraints can shift like they did last year.

Instead of closing orders to adjust what can be ordered, then reopening, they’re just going to close and let dealer allocation run the show. But dealer allocation based on what they can actually build instead of building to customer demand.
 

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I feel like this is the opposite of what Ford was saying previously. This seems to state that Ford prefers to sell cars through the dealers rather than customer orders. Over the last year, we kept hearing the opposite.
EV only. ICE and Hybrid will remain the same way it has always been.
 

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I’m on the side that thinks this is a constraint issue. I think Ford is noticing their plan isn’t aligned with orders at all - I bet the split is like 70/30 Hybrid/Gas, 60%+ want CP360, XL is popular, Lux is on the majority of orders, etc. And they know their constraints can shift like they did last year.

Instead of closing orders to adjust what can be ordered, then reopening, they’re just going to close and let dealer allocation run the show. But dealer allocation based on what they can actually build instead of building to customer demand.

By looking at the constraint list there’s going to be a lot of xlt with fx4 as the only option. Looks like those will get built quicker.
 

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EV only. ICE and Hybrid will remain the same way it has always been.

Now they are changing their minds and the current dealers can buy in and sell the ev. Business as usual
 

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I’m on the side that thinks this is a constraint issue. I think Ford is noticing their plan isn’t aligned with orders at all - I bet the split is like 70/30 Hybrid/Gas, 60%+ want CP360, XL is popular, Lux is on the majority of orders, etc. And they know their constraints can shift like they did last year.

Instead of closing orders to adjust what can be ordered, then reopening, they’re just going to close and let dealer allocation run the show. But dealer allocation based on what they can actually build instead of building to customer demand.
I agree. And the reason the XL is constrained to 15% is because that’s how many seats they ordered from suppliers 😀. Same thing happened with Lightning. People wanted the Pro, aka XL, but Ford only wanted to produce 5% of them.
I predict you’ll be able to find dealer stock next year of XLT Ecoboost with minimal options.
 
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If Ford is smart, they will allocate a certain number to retail orders and leave the rest for stock. So, if Ford plans to build 100,000 trucks, set 60% of them to retail. Once that limit is reached in the system, turn it off but allow any "in progress" orders to wrap up. That ensures all retail orders are able to be placed and built. Dealers can then place stock orders going forward based on their allotments and just deal with the customer demand as best they can.

Until Ford gets their Maverick PEZ machine working, they can only make so many trucks and have to put a limit somewhere to ensure those who ordered actually get their trucks. We'll see.
 

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Ford doesn’t have the commodities to build 100% retail orders. They need to leave some to stock to build less popular configurations to use up the parts they have already bought from suppliers. All orders go through dealers. Retails are preferred as they turn faster.
It wouldn't bother me if these weren't marked up by $10k.
 
 







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