Hybrid Acceleration

[Gmood1]

I haven't seen a test drive video yet, but I've seen several apparently credible reports that Ford says the hybrid Mav turns in an 8.5 or 8.6 0-60 time, which seems reasonable to me.
Like others, and not being the least bit familiar with hybrid technology, I had some concerns about the performance of the hybrid Maverick at first. The fact that it shares a drivetrain with the hybrid Escape...and that it's numbers line up pretty well with the Mav reports mostly allayed my worries. But recently I came across some information that provided me with an even better perspective.
My first car was a '72 Maverick with a 302 V-8. It was a pretty quick car. Not Roadrunner fast of course, but it acquitted itself nicely, and in those younger days I surprised more than a few people with it's competitiveness. So it occurred to me to check online to see if any performance info was still available. And yes of course it was no problem to find. Bottom line is that the 0-60 time of that car was 8.7 seconds. So if those early reports about the new Mav are accurate, that is ALL this skeptic needs to know, and perhaps others will be satisfied as well.

Yeah, it should be adequate for those not thirsting for that push into the driver's seat.
My current hybrid was rated at 8.3 seconds, 0-60. It's ok.

For those of us, that have experienced 6 seconds or less 0-60s. You will without a doubt be left wanting more oomph.
I look at my current Hybrid as more of an appliance for saving fuel and money.
If you can't mentally put it in that category, you are in for a disappointment IMHO.

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[JASmith]

For those of us, that has experienced 6 seconds or less 0-60s. You will without a doubt be left wanting more oomph.

I look at my current Hybrid as more of an appliance for saving fuel and money.
If you can't mentally put it in that category, you are in for a disappointment IMHO.

We have a pretty heavily modified Corvette, and not that long ago a Charger Scat Pack, I think its just about what is fun, and IMO hypermiling can be a gamification of driving in and of itself as well.

See how long you can keep it going in EV mode, anticipating traffic and stops to coast, picking good lines in turns so you don't have to bleed off too much speed, etc and seeing your results.

 

[Gmood1]

We have a pretty heavily modified Corvette, and not that long ago a Charger Scat Pack, I think its just about what is fun, and IMO hypermiling can be a gamification of driving in and of itself as well.

See how long you can keep it going in EV mode, anticipating traffic and stops to coast, picking good lines in turns so you don't have to bleed off too much speed, etc and seeing your results.

Yup, I used to try all those methods. lol
I used to see just how much I could squeeze out of each gallon of gas.
I'd go out the way just to buy non-ethanol gas as well. At the current cost in my area, not sure it's worth it anymore.
Being my first Hybrid, it was fun to do!
9 years later, I don't think about it much, if at all.
I just get in and drive .

 

[vap0rtranz]

I look at my current Hybrid as more of an appliance for saving fuel and money.

Yup.

Car powertrains are like cooking equipment to me.

We've got a range of equipment nowadays, from open pit wood fire to induction cooktop. My in-laws have induction. They get near instant heat at the exact temp they want with near 0 heat loss, but none of that wood flavor. I've got an open pit wood fire: great wood flavor, but its persnickety to maintain temp and the bulk of the heat just blows away. My friend has an electric pellet barrel cooker. Best of both worlds? Well his pork does taste good and without all the fuss or waste.

Pick your car "appliance" and know it's pros & cons.

 

[oljackfrost]

Yeah, it should be adequate for those not thirsting for that push into the driver's seat.
My current hybrid was rated at 8.3 seconds, 0-60. It's ok.

For those of us, that has experienced 6 seconds or less 0-60s. You will without a doubt be left wanting more oomph.
I look at my current Hybrid as more of an appliance for saving fuel and money.
If you can't mentally put it in that category, you are in for a disappointment IMHO.

Wow, a lot of you folks are really spoiled. It’s obvious you’ve never had any really slow cars. Try an original non-turbo VW diesel, I had one, 0-60 sometime next week

 

[Fast64Ranchero]

Someone released info back in June, 0-60 in 8.6-8.9 and said the Hybrid was faster from 0-30 than the 2.0L Ecoboost. take it for what it's worth.

 

[JASmith]

I found a review of the Ford Escape with a similar powertrain of the hybrid Maverick. The reviewer drives a lot of different vehicles. I trust his assessments.

So I think one of his main complaints is the buzziness more than the performance. That was one thing I noticed with the BMW i3 electric I drove is that it wasn't really all that powerful, however, the fact that it was silent meant you could floor it all the time but with no noise it felt effortless. The same experience with a very buzzy engine would have felt strained because of all the extra NVH. The Ecoboost does seem to be quite a bit quieter than the 2.5.

 

[Gmood1]

So I think one of his main complaints is the buzziness more than the performance. That was one thing I noticed with the BMW i3 electric I drove is that it wasn't really all that powerful, however, the fact that it was silent meant you could floor it all the time but with no noise it felt effortless. The same experience with a very buzzy engine would have felt strained because of all the extra NVH. The Ecoboost does seem to be quite a bit quieter than the 2.5.

Yes without a doubt. My 2.4L has that same buzzy vibration when I try hard acceleration.
Stark contrast from my last 2.0 T, which had no vibration at all entering the cabin. It was way more torquey than the Hybrid. Full torque came on at 2250 RPMs. At 70 mph, RPMs were around 1500 with that 2.0T. While my Hybrid is 2500 RPMs at the same speed.

Honestly, his review reminded me of what I've experienced to some degree.

 

[Gmood1]

Someone released info back in June, 0-60 in 8.6-8.9 and said the Hybrid was faster from 0-30 than the 2.0L Ecoboost. take it for what it's worth.

Yeah, I don't believe that for a hot second. Both my 1.5T and 1.6T would smoke my Hybrid easily at any speed. And the 2.0T vs my 2.4L Hybrid, not a chance in hell.

 

[MLA62563]

Yeah, it should be adequate for those not thirsting for that push into the driver's seat.
My current hybrid was rated at 8.3 seconds, 0-60. It's ok.

For those of us, that has experienced 6 seconds or less 0-60s. You will without a doubt be left wanting more oomph.
I look at my current Hybrid as more of an appliance for saving fuel and money.
If you can't mentally put it in that category, you are in for a disappointment IMHO.

Yeah, it should be adequate for those not thirsting for that push into the driver's seat.
My current hybrid was rated at 8.3 seconds, 0-60. It's ok.

For those of us, that has experienced 6 seconds or less 0-60s. You will without a doubt be left wanting more oomph.
I look at my current Hybrid as more of an appliance for saving fuel and money.
If you can't mentally put it in that category, you are in for a disappointment IMHO.

Yeah I guess it's all about what one can and can't live without. My first new car was an '88 Mustang 5.0, and I think it was around the six second figure. Definitely had that "push" into the driver's seat, but after enjoying the kick for a while, I found myself just settling into the commuter "appliance" routine, and eventually sold it to a kid I earnestly hoped wouldn't get himself into trouble with it.
I just checked online, and my current Honda Accord model shows a 9.8 second 0-60 time. It keeps up with the traffic just fine, and I don't remember ever thinking it was sluggish...so I think grandpa here is gonna be perfectly satisfied with his hybrid Maverick. Assuming it ever gets scheduled, of course. Order confirmed June 24th....still no word.

 

[dceggert]

Yeah I guess it's all about what one can and can't live without. My first new car was an '88 Mustang 5.0, and I think it was around the six second figure. Definitely had that "push" into the driver's seat, but after enjoying the kick for a while, I found myself just settling into the commuter "appliance" routine, and eventually sold it to a kid I earnestly hoped wouldn't get himself into trouble with it.
I just checked online, and my current Honda Accord model shows a 9.8 second 0-60 time. It keeps up with the traffic just fine, and I don't remember ever thinking it was sluggish...so I think grandpa here is gonna be perfectly satisfied with his hybrid Maverick. Assuming it ever gets scheduled, of course. Order confirmed June 24th....still no word.

Yup, I drove a 1983 GT 5.0 for 8 years. I learned that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Going wide open throttle on the Mustang was a blast but you only had a few seconds before you were in the trouble zone. So, like you I ended up in the 'gotta drive it slow' mode.

My next car was a 1991 Escort GT. I could drive that one more often in the fun zone, or, at least for a few more seconds anyway!

 

[WesM]

So I think one of his main complaints is the buzziness more than the performance. That was one thing I noticed with the BMW i3 electric I drove is that it wasn't really all that powerful, however, the fact that it was silent meant you could floor it all the time but with no noise it felt effortless. The same experience with a very buzzy engine would have felt strained because of all the extra NVH. The Ecoboost does seem to be quite a bit quieter than the 2.5.

There is a lot of truth to this. Sound really plays into how power is perceived. My Rav4 has about the same 0-60 times and hp/weight ratio as my civic, but it feels a lot more powerful because of how quiet it is. The 08 civic sounds like a screaming banshee anytime you push it into the 5k rpm range (which is a normal passing RPM at 70-80mph on the hilly roads around here) and left me feeling like it was underpowered.

 

[Edge Haley]

Someone released info back in June, 0-60 in 8.6-8.9 and said the Hybrid was faster from 0-30 than the 2.0L Ecoboost. take it for what it's worth.

I would not be that surprised. Current ride is a Porsche Cayman S, and 0-60 in launch control is roughly 4.0+- depending on tires.. But have rented a dozen Escape Titanium's and was frankly sort of blown away in low end acceleration of the Escape hybrid....the one's I've driven were quick.

No doubt electric is where it is going....The new Porsche Electric Tascan has just passed the Porsche 911 in unit sales, first time in 50 yrs...followed a friends S-90 Tesla and my Cayman S was not even competive with instant power to the wheels of the electric Tesla....Looking at the Maverick for lower insurance rates and better MPG.....

 

[TS0323]

With the caveat that I'm way too bored and this is completely non-scientific, I found 0-60 runs for the Escape 2.0L AWD and the Escape Hybrid on YouTube that closely matched the tested 0-60 times from Motortrend (6.9 sec for the 2.0L, 8.7 sec for the hybrid). I synced those up in my editing software and found that they're extremely close on 0-30 times, within a third of a second or so. No idea if this will translate to the Maverick, but it's somewhat encouraging.

 

[MLA62563]

Yup, I drove a 1983 GT 5.0 for 8 years. I learned that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Going wide open throttle on the Mustang was a blast but you only had a few seconds before you were in the trouble zone. So, like you I ended up in the 'gotta drive it slow' mode.

My next car was a 1991 Escort GT. I could drive that one more often in the fun zone, or, at least for a few more seconds anyway!

Interesting, I guess we both rode the exact same learning curve. With all that power, it was basically impossible to put the Mustang through it's paces without ending up with a glove box full of speeding tickets...which made the car ultimately unsatisfying to drive.

I replaced the Mustang with a '94 Ford Probe GT....and as you would expect I found it waaay mare fun to drive.

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