Tested: Hybrid Maverick Peak Torque = 267 Lb-Ft

[Eagle11]

PEAK HYBRID SYSTEM TORQUE: 267 Lb-Ft.


Published Torque:
Gas Engine: 155 lb-ft peak
Electric Motor: 173 lb-ft peak

Unpublished:
Combined hybrid system peak output.

Tested:
Peak Combined Output: 267 lb-ft
(Computer calculated)

Achieved with high (4000 RPM) engine and low (20 MPH) Motor Speed. Peak Torque is with pedal to the floor, truck at 20 MPH.

University of Nebraska did extensive testing of OBDII computer generated torque values vs. dynamometer testing, and found on a 4.5L diesel engine, OBDII computer calculations were consistently higher, but just 2% higher than dyno.

I collected data via OBDII during two full throttle accelerations from zero to 65 MPH. I only had snapshot values at 1 second intervals so the peak may be slightly higher if it occurred between intervals, but the two runs matched pretty closely.

At highway speeds, torque was about 180 Lb - Ft.

The sweet spot: 20-30 MPH.

EB Maverick can sustain the high torque for as long as gasoline supply lasts. Hybrid Maverick will only be able to sustain high torque for 1-2 minutes, or for as long as the battery charge lasts.

But at least, I have demonstrated (to myself anyway) the hybrid is just as good, as the EcoBoost, for getting your heavy load/trailer going from a stop.



Hope you enjoy reading this half as much as I enjoyed testing it.

Of worthy note: there is a stored value in your truck, like the stored value for engine displacement and manufacture date. There is an on board stored value for 100% Torque Reference Point. The value in my Hybrid Maverick: 245.6 which is close to experimental values.
My first run I got a peak of 253.6.
My second run I got 267.

This right here proves my theory, that the elect motor works with the ICE if needed. When I place my truck in sport mode, it will break loose the front tires, and pull with authority much more than what Ford publishes. I'm not a stranger to high-power cars... I wonder why Ford doesn't really publish a high value...

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[GPSMan]

I would like to know why the EV mode is so bridled, so limited. With 126 electric horsepower, we should be able to accelerate like an EV, at least like an entry level EV.

Base model Nissan Leaf is 147 HP.
Honda Fit EV 123 HP
Fiat 500 EV 111 HP



We have a 94kW traction motor, "governed" to about 10kW in EV mode.

Sure, the battery is small.
Sure, we'd drain it fast.
But someone decided for us, 9 lethargic launches was preferable to one slingshot launch.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Not terribly surprising, knew the figures ford threw out there were underrated. It feels just as punchy, or punchier than our 2017 explorer, and that beast has close to 300 hp.

 

[GPSMan]

While impressive, keep in mind, everyone, this PEAK power is for short bursts.

 

[Zotman]

I'm apparently unclear on the concept: one purchases a hybrid to see how quickly it consumes fuel? And how does one doing these tests still report 48.7mpg onFuelly?

 

[Automate]

I would like to know why the EV mode is so bridled, so limited. With 126 electric horsepower, we should be able to accelerate like an EV, at least like an entry level EV.

Base model Nissan Leaf is 147 HP.
Honda Fit EV 123 HP
Fiat 500 EV 111 HP



We have a 94kW traction motor, "governed" to about 10kW in EV mode.

Sure, the battery is small.
Sure, we'd drain it fast.
But someone decided for us, 9 lethargic launches was preferable to one slingshot launch.

For the same reason we only get 40% of the battery capacity. To save the battery life. High currents from the battery are more stressful and shorten its life.

Designed to be an efficient long lasting vehicle, not a drag racer.

 

[Allen King Jr]

What I would like to see is someone put the hybrid on an actual dyno

 

[joeboxer22]

I wonder what mode it was tested in ? Sport maybe ?

 

[Darnon]

For the same reason we only get 40% of the battery capacity. To save the battery life. High currents from the battery are more stressful and shorten its life.

Or in consideration of other components in the chain like the motor controllers. Obviously there's circumstances where they've engineered it to put out more power for brief periods like the 'high HVB SoC/low HVAC load' trick. My '14 Fusion Hybrid also could output more EV power/more deeply discharge for ~1/8 mile when it neared a couple of common destinations.

 

[GPSMan]

For the same reason we only get 40% of the battery capacity. To save the battery life. High currents from the battery are more stressful and shorten its life.

Designed to be an efficient long last vehicle, not a drag racer.

Yes. Probably almost certainly yes.

 

[GPSMan]

I'm apparently unclear on the concept: one purchases a hybrid to see how quickly it consumes fuel? And how does one doing these tests still report 48.7mpg onFuelly?

Obviously!

A) This tank is still in the truck so not entered into Fuelly yet. ( I only fill up once every 5 or 6 weeks.)

B) Two quarter mile runs do not shift a tank average very much, maybe a couple of tenths? Simple math!

Clear now?

 

[710-oil-614]

Interesting and good analysis.

I would be interested in seeing a torque curve of both engines and then to combine them to see what kind of torque is makes across the band.

My assumption would be powerful (not PEAK powerful, let's say 190-210 ft lbs), broad torque band that comes on early (2,000rpm) and stays through mid to upper RPMs (4500 ft lbs).

However - to achieve that curve both motors would need to be working in unison at full strength and I don't believe that is how the system is set up, even at full throttle.

 

[LSchicago]

How can the Ecoboost go 0-90 in 15.8 seconds and also run a 1/4 mile in 14.5 @95mph?

That's impossible. This seems more like the correct 1/4 time for stock.

 

[Bmr4mav]

FYI. The gas motor and batteries are limiting the max power the traction motor can make.

A PHEV Maverick will likely be even more powerful as long as Ford unlocks some current which they can with the additional battery capacity.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-maverick-hybrid-motor-technology/amp/

 

[mamboman777]

PEAK HYBRID SYSTEM TORQUE: 267 Lb-Ft.


Published Torque:
Gas Engine: 155 lb-ft peak
Electric Motor: 173 lb-ft peak

Unpublished:
Combined hybrid system peak output.

Tested:
Peak Combined Output: 267 lb-ft
(Computer calculated)

Achieved with high (4000 RPM) engine and low (20 MPH) Motor Speed. Peak Torque is with pedal to the floor, truck at 20 MPH.

University of Nebraska did extensive testing of OBDII computer generated torque values vs. dynamometer testing, and found on a 4.5L diesel engine, OBDII computer calculations were consistently higher, but just 2% higher than dyno.

I collected data via OBDII during two full throttle accelerations from zero to 65 MPH. I only had snapshot values at 1 second intervals so the peak may be slightly higher if it occurred between intervals, but the two runs matched pretty closely.

At highway speeds, torque was about 180 Lb - Ft.

The sweet spot: 20-30 MPH.

EB Maverick can sustain the high torque for as long as gasoline supply lasts. Hybrid Maverick will only be able to sustain high torque for 1-2 minutes, or for as long as the battery charge lasts.

But at least, I have demonstrated (to myself anyway) the hybrid is just as good, as the EcoBoost, for getting your heavy load/trailer going from a stop.



Hope you enjoy reading this half as much as I enjoyed testing it.

Of worthy note: there is a stored value in your truck, like the stored value for engine displacement and manufacture date. There is an on board stored value for 100% Torque Reference Point. The value in my Hybrid Maverick: 245.6 which is close to experimental values.
My first run I got a peak of 253.6.
My second run I got 267.

I've seen this little number (333 N/M) in torque pro before....

Makes perfect sense now.

Pretty close to what op is saying.

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