Ok thanks for the update. It looks like your in Canada - I'm in Michigan and we get a fair amount of snow and nice and thus a lot of road salt. Have you used cosmoline before or is this your first time using it? I'll have to research this a little more I guess. I wonder if any of the places around me that do undercoating and rustproofing use cosmoline? I'm not really a DIY person when it comes to this stuff,lol.
Some oddities in those acceleration numbers.
Keep in mind the EB has to shift and the Hybrid doesn't.
Shhh! Don't tell the EB owners. There'll be an uprising.I can not speak to the accuracy of the above acceleration data. Plotting the above data shows this:
Remarkably similar is the takeaway.
Happy this thread got opened again, really enjoyed it. First time re-reading it after getting my Maverick. Really does show just how quick the hybrid can be with little effort and no fanfare. I have been more pleasantly surprised at my driving experience with the Maverick hybrid than I expected even after seeing this post (thread) 19 months ago.Keep in mind the EB has to shift and the Hybrid doesn't.
0-80 the hybrid has torque going to the wheels all 12.5 seconds. The EB has several instances of zero torque between shifts. Fractions of a second each. But what, 7 shifts?
NO they will point out all the recalls our Hybrids have had, like that means a lot
PEAK HYBRID SYSTEM TORQUE: 267 Lb-Ft.
Published Torque:
Gas Engine: 155 lb-ft peak
Electric Motor: 173 lb-ft peak
Unpublished:
Combined hybrid system peak output.
Tested:
Peak Combined Output: 267 lb-ft
(Computer calculated)
Achieved with high (4000 RPM) engine and low (20 MPH) Motor Speed. Peak Torque is with pedal to the floor, truck at 20 MPH.
University of Nebraska did extensive testing of OBDII computer generated torque values vs. dynamometer testing, and found on a 4.5L diesel engine, OBDII computer calculations were consistently higher, but just 2% higher than dyno.
I collected data via OBDII during two full throttle accelerations from zero to 65 MPH. I only had snapshot values at 1 second intervals so the peak may be slightly higher if it occurred between intervals, but the two runs matched pretty closely.
At highway speeds, torque was about 180 Lb - Ft.
The sweet spot: 20-30 MPH.
EB Maverick can sustain the high torque for as long as gasoline supply lasts. Hybrid Maverick will only be able to sustain high torque for 1-2 minutes, or for as long as the battery charge lasts.
But at least, I have demonstrated (to myself anyway) the hybrid is just as good, as the EcoBoost, for getting your heavy load/trailer going from a stop.
Hope you enjoy reading this half as much as I enjoyed testing it.
Of worthy note: there is a stored value in your truck, like the stored value for engine displacement and manufacture date. There is an on board stored value for 100% Torque Reference Point. The value in my Hybrid Maverick: 245.6 which is close to experimental values.
My first run I got a peak of 253.6.
My second run I got 267.
PEAK HYBRID SYSTEM TORQUE: 267 Lb-Ft.
Published Torque:
Gas Engine: 155 lb-ft peak
Electric Motor: 173 lb-ft peak
Unpublished:
Combined hybrid system peak output.
Tested:
Peak Combined Output: 267 lb-ft
(Computer calculated)
Achieved with high (4000 RPM) engine and low (20 MPH) Motor Speed. Peak Torque is with pedal to the floor, truck at 20 MPH.
University of Nebraska did extensive testing of OBDII computer generated torque values vs. dynamometer testing, and found on a 4.5L diesel engine, OBDII computer calculations were consistently higher, but just 2% higher than dyno.
I collected data via OBDII during two full throttle accelerations from zero to 65 MPH. I only had snapshot values at 1 second intervals so the peak may be slightly higher if it occurred between intervals, but the two runs matched pretty closely.
At highway speeds, torque was about 180 Lb - Ft.
The sweet spot: 20-30 MPH.
EB Maverick can sustain the high torque for as long as gasoline supply lasts. Hybrid Maverick will only be able to sustain high torque for 1-2 minutes, or for as long as the battery charge lasts.
But at least, I have demonstrated (to myself anyway) the hybrid is just as good, as the EcoBoost, for getting your heavy load/trailer going from a stop.
Hope you enjoy reading this half as much as I enjoyed testing it.
Of worthy note: there is a stored value in your truck, like the stored value for engine displacement and manufacture date. There is an on board stored value for 100% Torque Reference Point. The value in my Hybrid Maverick: 245.6 which is close to experimental values.
My first run I got a peak of 253.6.
My second run I got 267.
0-20 maybe 0-30 MPH the Hybrid will outrun the Ecoboost.
I would also be very curious about that. Stuff elsewhere suggests quite a bump, but would like to see what same procedure as in this thread comes up with.
It doesn't suggest a bump - it is very real the new HF55 electric motors are much more powerful but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of that increase will translate 1:1 with a peak torque increase.
