Premium or Regular unleaded ??

[motoretro]

I am used to running Premium fuel has I have been required to run that for 14+ years now in my 2007 Honda Civic Si sedan. It will be like second nature anyway. I don't think I'll ever voluntarily sell it. It's my 219 Tacoma that's getting the boot - too many unresolved issues with it. My Honda was not the fastest new or now, but it is so much fun to drive. Hoping Ford's 2.0 EB lends to some spirited driving at times.

I'm with you regarding Tacomas, my 09 was the worse truck I've owned. Lots of issues and the driving position is terrible. I'm a (5) time Toyaota owner so it's not that I don't like the brand. My 04 Tundra was 10 times the vehicle.

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[Xtreme Thunder]

I'm with you regarding Tacomas, my 09 was the worse truck I've owned. Lots of issues and the driving position is terrible. I'm a (5) time Toyaota owner so it's not that I don't like the brand. My 04 Tundra was 10 times the vehicle.

I still prefer Japanese manufacturers (Honda and Toyota), but neither make a vehicle like the Maverick. I am stepping outside my comfort zone, but I typically purchase vehicles for my needs, not to find something within the constraints of one or two manufacturers. I'd for sure consider a Toyota competitor to the Maverick, but one doesn't exist, so too bad for them. I was actually hoping to keep the Toyota for many years, but unfortunately, Toyota dropped the ball on my particular Tacoma example. I feel sorry for the next owner that will have to deal with its problems, likely outside of warranty too. Oh well.

 

[Nw_adventure]

I still prefer Japanese manufacturers (Honda and Toyota), but neither make a vehicle like the Maverick. I am stepping outside my comfort zone, but I typically purchase vehicles for my needs, not to find something within the constraints of one or two manufacturers. I'd for sure consider a Toyota competitor to the Maverick, but one doesn't exist, so too bad for them. I was actually hoping to keep the Toyota for many years, but unfortunately, Toyota dropped the ball on my particular Tacoma example. I feel sorry for the next owner that will have to deal with its problems, likely outside of warranty too. Oh well.

Agree - But as my friend says "Toyota's " have no soul - We have a highlander, bullet proof highway warrior but such a bland over-all driving experience. Looking forward to a peppy small turbo'ed engine with a little blow off valve pop.

 

[Rkbrumbelow]

Agree - But as my friend says "Toyota's " have no soul - We have a highlander, bullet proof highway warrior but such a bland over-all driving experience. Looking forward to a peppy small turbo'ed engine with a little blow off valve pop.

Regular is in the manual, if your trim starts to be affected move up a grade until it normalized to prevent timing changes and loss of power

 

[Probity]

Hi all,

The cost of Regular VS Premium unleaded is almost a deal breaker.I always heard that turbo needed Premium. What fuel does it need? How about Ethanol 10% ?

Thanks

The owners manual is your friend.

 

[Deleted member 1157]

The owners manual is your friend.

Premium it is for the Ecoboost...

 

[neosolidus]

I have never owned a ford myself(maverick is looking to be the first one) but my nephew had a ford fusion with the ecoboost engine and in the beginning it was fine with regular gas but as soon as it hit 25k it started hesitating/stalling once or twice when cold, he was told by dealer that gas was the problem switched to premium without ethanol and the stalling went away but the somewhat rough running stayed, he decided to trade it and get an escape but this time decided to go premium the whole time and already past 40k no issues.

As far as normal turbo knowledge goes, I have seen too many engines with a fist size hole on the side with rods sticking out due to detonation to take a chance.

Premium gas is cheap enough where I rather use it than take the chance of having issues, the same applies to frequent oil changes, it is just cheap insurance and peace of mind.

 

[Eagle11]

I had bad experience with turbo - namely my first new car - 1987 Plymouth Sundance 2.2L Turbo- It did use Premium unleaded but never got 120K because the turbo died (and the car because of cost).

How can you use your data from 34 years ago have any bearing on cars today?

 

[STARCOMMTREY1]

Hi all,

The cost of Regular VS Premium unleaded is almost a deal breaker.I always heard that turbo needed Premium. What fuel does it need? How about Ethanol 10% ?

Thanks

The EBs are rated for regular.

 

[STARCOMMTREY1]

What's funny the manual says a hybrid can run off of ethanol but it's not rated for it.

 

[DesertSweat]

According to the specs the 2.5l hybrid is 13:1 compression ratio.

The effective compression ratio is much less since we are not comparing Otto engines now. Atkinson cycle engines perform slightly different in that you actually have flow reversion out the intake since the intake valves are still open during the compression stroke.

 

[Rkbrumbelow]

The effective compression ratio is much less since we are not comparing Otto engines now. Atkinson cycle engines perform slightly different in that you actually have flow reversion out the intake since the intake valves are still open during the compression stroke.

Yes, though that is really because the air is still moving and has a pressure wave. Once the compression stroke starts, the intake only remains open as long as manifold pressure at the valve is greater than the pressure of the cylinder (very simple understanding version)

 

[fbov]

... Once the compression stroke starts, the intake only remains open as long as manifold pressure at the valve is greater than the pressure of the cylinder (very simple understanding version)

I think that might apply in normally-aspirated engines, but an Atkinson has only just started at 10% underfill (very top color contour). I'm seeing more than twice the expansion-to-intake volume at low RPM. The symbols are defined in the key.

 

[BDennis]

Owners manual says regular for all configurations

 

[TruckVille]

I just looked it up in the Maverick Owner's Manual that I downloaded from Ford.

87 octane is fine.

91 or higher may give you a better experience in some situations.

There is no single answer for everyone under every condition. Try different grades and use what you like.

Here is what the manual says on Page 172:

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Your vehicle operates on regular unleaded
gasoline with a minimum pump (R+M)/2
octane rating of 87.

For best overall vehicle and engine
performance, premium fuel with an octane
rating of 91 or higher is recommended.

The performance gained by using premium fuel
is most noticeable in hot weather as well
as other conditions, for example when
towing a trailer.
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