Oil Changes - Dealer or DIY

[bighap]

I'll be using my points to let the dealer do it. Not worth the hassle for an annual oil change. I only drive 3500-4000 miles a year.

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[KeinoDoggy]

I’ve been watching some YouTube videos on Maverick maintenance, most of which are from the States.

I’m curious, how much is an oil change at a Ford dealership in your area? Canada and the US.

I drive an F150 currently and at a dealer an oil change is $115 Canadian, or $85 USD. It takes 7.7qt of oil. If I was to buy my own oil and filter it would be over $115 CAD. That’s using a good name brand oil (Mobile 1, Pennzoil) and not a budget brand.

Do those of you who do your own oil changes just like to use your preferred brand of oil and trust only yourself to do maintenance on your vehicle? Unless oil is much cheaper in the States, I don’t see a financial benefit to doing your own oil changes.

I do my own. What do you think the chances would be of getting your Maverick back from the dealer or any oil change place with ALL of the torx screws back in the engine belly cover??

 

[OleFordGuy]

Just be careful with the oil you choose to use, Ford has specific oil spec requirements for the Ecoboost that many oils including Pennzoil Platinum, Ultra Platinum and standard Mobil 1 don't meet (yet). The oil spec they require is formulated to be less vulnerable to low speed preignition and to promote better wear of timing chain guides, both of which have been problems for ecoboost motors. Using non spec oil could present a problem in the event of a warranty claim.

Maybe I'm missing something, the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 oil says it meets or exceeds the requirements of ILSAC GF-6A, API SP and all previous categories and has the API Certified label which appears to meet the owners manual and appears to me to meet/exceed the FORD WSS-M2C961-A1 specification of GF-6. What oil do you recommend using?

 

[MaverickTopGun]

Maybe I'm missing something, the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 oil ....FORD WSS-M2C961-A1 What oil do you recommend using?

I agree it is strange the Ultra Platinum doesn't have the latest WSS spec printed in . Being an SP oil means it has the latest Timing Chain Wear Tests & also is LSPI-resistant (low calcium recipe), all good. Practically, Ultra Platinum is good for your engine.

Warranty Legal? No. If that ever is something Ford pursues in a warranty claim.

I recommend an oil that does have the RIGHT WSS spec printed on the label, at Walmart or wherever you get your oil. That is Pennzoil Platinum (not Ultra, the Platinum one), Mobil 1, Castrol syns, Valvoline syns, etc., whatever you read off the back label, finding OUR CORRECT WSS spec is the right choice, any brand.

Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 does have the latest WSS spec we need, just not the Ultra Platinum, oddly.

I have a theory as to why the Ultra does not have it, while the Platinum does: Pennzoil Platinum is also dexos1 Gen3. Could be, hidden somewhere in the list of things the FORD WSS-M2C961-A1 spec requires, is a need to be dexos1 Gen3. Controversial theory, yes, but every oil I see that is dexos1 Gen3 also gets the latest, correct-for-us, WSS spec !

 

[NoVaJimmy]

I agree it is strange the Ultra Platinum doesn't have the latest WSS spec printed in . Being an SP oil means it has the latest Timing Chain Wear Tests & also is LSPI-resistant (low calcium recipe), all good. Practically, Ultra Platinum is good for your engine.

Warranty Legal? No. If that ever is something Ford pursues in a warranty claim.

I recommend an oil that does have the RIGHT WSS spec printed on the label, at Walmart or wherever you get your oil. That is Pennzoil Platinum (not Ultra, the Platinum one), Mobil 1, Castrol syns, Valvoline syns, etc., whatever you read off the back label, finding OUR CORRECT WSS spec is the right choice, any brand.

Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 does have the latest WSS spec we need, just not the Ultra Platinum, oddly.

I have a theory as to why the Ultra does not have it, while the Platinum does: Pennzoil Platinum is also dexos1 Gen3. Could be, hidden somewhere in the list of things the FORD WSS-M2C961-A1 spec requires, is a need to be dexos1 Gen3. Controversial theory, yes, but every oil I see that is dexos1 Gen3 also gets the latest, correct-for-us, WSS spec !

looking directly at their data sheet off of their website for Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 and it does not specify that it meets the A1 standard, just A.

Also, I hate oil discussions because they always turn into a pissing match but I'm personally not willing to risk tensioner guide failure or carbon buildup issues being denied a warranty repair. I used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum religiously in my Focus ST and Escape 2.0 and had amazing results and reliability but I've since moved to Castrol Edge since it does meet the new A1 spec.

 

[AUDIOZONE]

I just had my first oil change a few days ago at 4600 something miles. It was $10 at Granger in Iowa where I bought it. It was a first oil change coupon for granger buyers. They said the normal price is a bit less than $70. I drive about 5000 miles every 8 weeks with my daily travels.

I will go back there while it has a warranty. I can't think of a good reason not to. From what I've read on here about the fx4 model, I think I will probably have my oil changes done by ford. People say the skid plate is awkward to remove if you don't have a lot of space.

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[MiMav]

I went back to doing my own oil changes after multiple problems with Ford Quicklanes. My experience is that there aren't many (or any) good places to get it done and if you don't check the work you may not know about the bad job. I've seen:

- Too much oil added.
- Not enough oil added.
- Loose oil filters.
- Overtightened drain plugs.
- Missing screws for the under-engine cover.
- Stripped nut inserts for the under-engine cover.

Of course whenever I confronted the Quicklane management the problems were always denied. As I think someone mentioned, the workers doing the oil changes are not skilled auto techs.

 

[bgn]

Moved to doing my own. $5 Motorcraft filter, $20 Costco 5w-30 full synth.

Don't ever go to quick lube places.

 

[MavDave]

DIY cost me $ 35.00 Mobil one filter and Mobil One Full synthetic 0/20 oil . I know it was done correct took about a Half an Hour along with a 15 Minute nap under the truck .. Also found out what a crappy job the dealer did on the Fire recall for the bottom Pan

Please look at your owners manual and the oul you are using. With 0-20 in a Maverick your engine will not last very long. I am in Houston and typically bump up to 10-30 (because 115*F happens somedays) but my Amsoil rep informed me that Amsoil wouldn't warranty my engine if I used 10-30. I would stick with the 5-30 that is on the oil cap and in the owners manual.

 

[NoVaJimmy]

Please look at your owners manual and the oul you are using. With 0-20 in a Maverick your engine will not last very long. I am in Houston and typically bump up to 10-30 (because 115*F happens somedays) but my Amsoil rep informed me that Amsoil wouldn't warranty my engine if I used 10-30. I would stick with the 5-30 that is on the oil cap and in the owners manual.

I think they have a hybrid which calls for 0w-20

 

[MavDave]

I think they have a hybrid which calls for 0w-20

... in that case I retract my "your engine won't last long" comment. We should always use oil specified

 

[icegradner]

I’ve been watching some YouTube videos on Maverick maintenance, most of which are from the States.

I’m curious, how much is an oil change at a Ford dealership in your area? Canada and the US.

I drive an F150 currently and at a dealer an oil change is $115 Canadian, or $85 USD. It takes 7.7qt of oil. If I was to buy my own oil and filter it would be over $115 CAD. That’s using a good name brand oil (Mobile 1, Pennzoil) and not a budget brand.

Do those of you who do your own oil changes just like to use your preferred brand of oil and trust only yourself to do maintenance on your vehicle? Unless oil is much cheaper in the States, I don’t see a financial benefit to doing your own oil changes.

I got quotes for jobs from my dealer here in Vancouver. They said $80 for basic oil change (don't know if that's for the recommended synthetic or not), basic check and tire rotation.

 

[Gpp]

Ah yes,just love the age old best oil,change oil interval,and where to get it done discussions, right along with which car is best,ford,chevy,or dodge

 

[bgn]

I got quotes for jobs from my dealer here in Vancouver. They said $80 for basic oil change (don't know if that's for the recommended synthetic or not), basic check and tire rotation.

It's for a synthetic blend, which is the minimum Ford calls for.

 

[icegradner]

It's for a synthetic blend, which is the minimum Ford calls for.

I'll ask to be sure anyway, most dealers in my area upcharge for synthetic. Dealers get bulk oil, most don't even use the brand recommended stuff, so you never know what you are going to get unless you ask.

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