Option for a second hybrid battery

[Walter56]

Maybe because Musk can't violate the laws of physics...

If you asked him he would claim he could

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[Eagle11]

Just a point of reference on battery size, I bought my survey crew an F150 powerboost crew cab. Basically an F150 hybrid Maverick. It works great, has been getting 23mpg around town fully loaded. It has a 1.5kw battery, which given the trucks weight, is about equal to a hybrid Maverick at 1.1kw.

Love your motorcycle, I miss my Motoguzzi Le Mans.

Here is the issue, most people in this thread live in "Merica, where bigger is better. I would figure that Ford has the engineers to figure out what is best for the Maverick as far as battery size. Doesn't matter, on my current tank, I'm averaging 57 mpg, I'm at 680 miles, and have 100 miles left.

 

[Eagle11]

If you asked him he would claim he could

He sort of has, with his Models S's and the insane 0-60 and 1/4 times in such a heavy car

 

[GPSMan]

Love your motorcycle, I miss my Motoguzzi Le Mans.

Here is the issue, most people in this thread live in "Merica, where bigger is better. I would figure that Ford has the engineers to figure out what is best for the Maverick as far as battery size. Doesn't matter, on my current tank, I'm averaging 57 mpg, I'm at 680 miles, and have 100 miles left.

That's what I was saying many posts above. It's not the size of the battery, it's how you use it.

Double size battery, a costly add on, I bet will boost MPG by one. Not worth the cost or effort.

 

[Delzona]

Yes, I'm averaging 57 MPG; I'm at 680 miles with 100 miles left. I'll make the 700 club, even the 750 club. I haven't used the AC in about a month.

Wow that's awesome! I'm still in the 600 club, but I'm wanting to see 700 since I know it's attainable! How many miles do you have on your Maverick now?

 

[Eagle11]

Wow that's awesome! I'm still in the 600 club, but I'm wanting to see 700 since I know it's attainable! How many miles do you have on your Maverick now?

9500

 

[Bushpilot]

That's what I was saying many posts above. It's not the size of the battery, it's how you use it.

Double size battery, a costly add on, I bet will boost MPG by one. Not worth the cost or effort.

I would guess in some use cases (hilly), it would be useful. In other cases, it would detrimental due to the extra weight and complexity.

So on average, I agree, for the cost, they probably hit near the sweet spot, with little gain for the cost.

 

[Delzona]

9500

Well here's to hoping my mpg will go up as I acquire more mileage!

 

[Onceforall]

I have another theory... The second battery pack is for the AWD Hybrid. It will power the rear axel electric only motor.

This is what makes most sense, given the limitations on space. Also, figuring out how to bring a driveshaft off the CVT to the rear...much more expensive and challenging than a simple additional battery with a replacement electric motor rear axle. The rear pumpkin from the EB can be easily replaced with an electric motor sizewise. Rear EB axle already IRS, so not a lot of additional needed.

 

[Darnon]

This is what makes most sense, given the limitations on space. Also, figuring out how to bring a driveshaft off the CVT to the rear...much more expensive and challenging than a simple additional battery with a replacement electric motor rear axle. The rear pumpkin from the EB can be easily replaced with an electric motor sizewise. Rear EB axle already IRS, so not a lot of additional needed.

Except Ford has already done both with the Escape (driveshaft) and the Corsair (motor). Guess which is the cheaper vehicle.

 

[jsus]

Except Ford has already done both with the Escape (driveshaft) and the Corsair (motor). Guess which is the cheaper vehicle.

Also, AWD doesn't impact the HVB size on Escape AWD or Corsair GT (PHEV) AWD. Corsair GT uses the one HVB for both MG1 and MG2 on the eCVT, and the eAWD motor on the rear axle.

My Escape FHEV AWD not only has the same HVB as a FWD hybrid, the EPA rating only drops 1 mpg city and combined (highway remains unchanged).

Meanwhile Escape ICE AWD loses 2 mpg city, 3 mpg hwy, 2 mpg combined, so it gets a bigger tank to compensate.

 

[Eagle11]

Well here's to hoping my mpg will go up as I acquire more mileage!

It takes time to change your driving habits.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

It takes time to change your driving habits.

I am working on "what's best in this case". I have a 16 mile 40 mph with about 7 slow to make turns. Slippery (coasts further with less amount of Regen) mode with Adaptive cruise on at 38-40 mph will be 59-64mpg usually. 64 mpg was with cabin heat off and seat heat at two bars and steering heat on! Resume from about 15-20 mph to 38-40mph will use 30-35% power for couple seconds dropping back to sometimes even ev mode in 3-5 seconds. Much more efficient than my foot.

 

[Benilla]

At current costs I don't think it's worth upgrading if you could. However, when the stock battery starts to die in ~10 years, might be worth looking into if you still have your Maverick

 

[Eagle11]

I am working on "what's best in this case". I have a 16 mile 40 mph with about 7 slow to make turns. Slippery (coasts further with less amount of Regen) mode with Adaptive cruise on at 38-40 mph will be 59-64mpg usually. 64 mpg was with cabin heat off and seat heat at two bars and steering heat on! Resume from about 15-20 mph to 38-40mph will use 30-35% power for couple seconds dropping back to sometimes even ev mode in 3-5 seconds. Much more efficient than my foot.

There are many variables at play when looking at how to improve your MPG.

Temp is #1, how hot or cold is it outside? Here in Phoenix currently it's been on the colder side, with highs in the high 50s, and my MPG has declined slightly. The ICE is running longer to heat the battery and the cabin.

Terrain, not all roads are flat, and my commute (17 miles) is all city streets, going to work I average 57MPG (worse 47), and on my way home 60 (worse 53). Also how much coasting time I have makes a huge difference.

Having windows open, and sunroof. I have the sunroof and noticed a 5-7 mpg drop is I have the sunroof open (it's not open currently, too cold)

Which mode are you using? 95% of the time I'm in Eco Mode, every once in a while I'll pop it into Sport.

I've had my Maverick now for almost a year, and I feel I have a good understanding of how to maximize my MPG.

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