Reliability 2.0 vs 2.5

[Wire4money]

Americans have been sold a bill of goods. No 9ne needs AWD to handle snow unless they plan to slow through unpaired drives.
FWD with snow tires is all 99% of people in snow states need.

I just moved out of snow country, and while our front wheel drive on snows did ok, when we sold it and bought awd, it was night and day. I had a 200’ long driveway, and like to come home after a snowstorm and pull into my garage before firing up the snowblower, not park on the street with the flashers on while I clear snow for an hour.

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[neosolidus]

excessive carbon build up normally is related to using low quality fuel, my current daily driver is a bimmer with DI which recently was checked for possible carbon issue and turned out that it has virtually no build up and the issue was due to an injector that was in early stages of failing without throwing a code(issue was caught very early thanks to my OCD attention to detail) the tech was very surprised about how clean everything was and asked me about my maintenance routine and what not for the warranty claim since I don't take in it for that they needed info.

5k oil changes vs their 10k recommended
I use 5-30 Liquid Moly vs 0-20 that they recommend, yeah take a small hit on MPG but I like how it runs better
I pour half a can of sea foam in the engine before changing the oil and a full can in the gas tank at every oil change.

Premium non ethanol gas from a nice gas station, if the station is in bad shape you can't expect them to care much for their tanks in the ground or the gas in them , also costco premium if I am near one(has ethanol but very good otherwise and dirt cheap price).

Some people may say that I am wasting my time and money especially since I don't keep them for long(5 years is the longest I keep usually) but up to this point all my vehicles have been performance oriented and I like having the peace of mind that I can punch it and they will respond instead of explode and that they will always get me home.

 

[clavicus]

I think boiling reliability down to a single value is wack, what are their methodologies? Let's not even consider predicted reliability, but for a 10 year old vehicle with real quantified values -- an AC compressor being recalled, or a rubber seal leak issue, versus a transmission issue, in reality the cost to repair different issues or subjective "owner impact" must vary wildly. How do they subjectively rank these things? How do they acquire their data?

 

[fbov]

... their "best and worst used cars" section. ...

Surprised to find out that my car's on the list!

I sure wish someone had told me my car was breaking down so often, I hadn't noticed!

 

[jimmy fitzwell]

Surprised to find out that my car's on the list!

I sure wish someone had told me my car was breaking down so often, I hadn't noticed!

Consumer Reports is worthless!

 

[Red Ryder]

Direct Injection of the ecoboost would be more of a concern for me than a CVT’s reliability.
Direct Injection is a pain with carbon buildup. Our new honda with DI had almost $2,000 worth of warranty work done associated with it. (we sold it once out of warranty)

The hybrid 2.5 is multi port injection (which is what toyota does).

Either way, both engines are probably okay, but a hybrid engine done the way toyota and ford do it (not all hybrids are the same, but the maverick’s system operates similar to a prius and other toyota’s) will last longer in my view than a small, DI turbo engine.
Naturally aspirated engines have the advantage over turbo in the long haul (notice how toyota has avoided turbos and subaru did as well up until recently?).

Everything you said plus the 2.5L is an MZR descendant, a very reliable engine.

 

[Brayden]

Thanks to everyone for their replies! I will be changing my configuration to Hybrid tomorrow as I don't need AWD or the Ecoboost in reality.

 

[Wrench77]

Ford hybrid Escapes are well known for lasting a very long time. Just search google for high mileage Ford Escape hybrid taxis. They all have well over 300k with minimal problems. We all know how taxis are treated.

 

[r100gs91]

Let's not forget the first gen of the 2.0L Turbo had many problems with a bad head gasket design. Many times Ford "barely fixes things" IME

 

[Deleted member 1370]

Consumer Reports is worthless!

agreed 100%

 

[Red Ryder]

Americans have been sold a bill of goods. No 9ne needs AWD to handle snow unless they plan to slow through unpaired drives.
FWD with snow tires is all 99% of people in snow states need.

Good to hear that from a New Englander. Many here in the south somehow deem AWD necessary for winter in the off-chance we even get a decent snow.

 

[Phil37]

Americans have been sold a bill of goods. No 9ne needs AWD to handle snow unless they plan to slow through unpaired drives.
FWD with snow tires is all 99% of people in snow states need.

Having lived in both MA & ME, I mostly agree with you. My VW Golf Sportwagen is FWD and I got by fine during Maine winters with good winter tires. That said, there was always that one or two times each Winter that I had to literally back down whereas if I had AWD, I probably could have made it. I agree with Mainer500 here. If it were only me, I'd probably just continue with fwd in New England, but since my wife and teenage daughter are going to drive it as well, I'd gladly pay the extra to get AWD...and of course put proper tires on for the conditions.

 

[FirstFord]

If it were only me, I'd probably just continue with fwd in New England, but since my wife and teenage daughter are going to drive it as well, I'd gladly pay the extra to get AWD...and of course put proper tires on for the conditions.

That's key; winter tires in addition to AWD, not instead.

 

[Snax]

For those wondering how Consumer Reports determines their ratings: Consumer Reports' Car Reliability FAQ - Consumer Reports

No, they didn't test YOUR car--so your experience may differ from their rating, for better or worse. But their methodology is transparent and thorough, and their conclusions are accurate for MOST cars.

 

[neosolidus]

Americans have been sold a bill of goods. No 9ne needs AWD to handle snow unless they plan to slow through unpaired drives.
FWD with snow tires is all 99% of people in snow states need.

Sure I also don't need air conditioning in a house but I would never buy one without it......

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