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Yes. The EB is spanish
The 2.0 L EcoBoost engine used in North American vehicles is now produced at the Cleveland Engine Plant in Brook Park, Ohio.
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All Mavericks, regardless of configuration, are assembled in Mexico. I believe someone posted in another thread their their ecoboost engine was assembled in Spain.
i believe both Spain and Ohio. less problems from Spain (fluid leaks) "according" to a couple of youtube vids.
 

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Except I don't live in the city. The majority of my driving is highway at speeds of 55 or higher. I want to see real world 40 + on the highway. Then I'll get excited. Is it better than my Mustang ? Sure. Geeze, it's a 5.0. Still going to sit out the first year. Ford always makes interesting changes the second and third years.
Technically, there is no real "world" when it comes to fuel economy. Every situation and driver is unique. The EPA's 5 cycle litmus tests actually do a pretty good job (much better than the older tests) of approximating a "typical user," but if you drive hard/fast you'll get less than their rated numbers and if you drive softer/slower you're exceed their rated numbers.
 

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Looks like some of these early built hybrids are gonna be just sitting around for a couple of months. Isn't that supposed to be a bad idea?

Fantastic to finally get a genuine official statement, though!
I wouldn't be concerned. Although dealers like to turn inventory every 30 days once a vehicle hits the lot, sometimes cars sit for months or years while waiting to be purchased.

Ok, so does this mean if I go to Ford today and order one that it will be built in December? Or is it still going to take longer to get the hybrid compared to the eco boost?
Probably not. As others stated, Ford is estimating that they'll have enough orders for 2022 Maverick Hybrids by early November. To me, that means Ford determined they have "X" capacity for Maverick Hybrid production for model year 2022. Once "Y" orders are received, they have enough work to spread out across model year 2022.

The new model year usually starts sometime in the early fall, so it makes sense that they'd reopen for model year 2023 hybrid orders next summer, once model year 2022 is done being built and/or they can forecast model year 2023 capacity.
 

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CARB emissions for California and the other states that have signed onto it are probably the big state one to be completed.
CARB should want to expedite getting it done. There will be a lot of fleet orders and when you can replace a 10-15 year old Ranger which gets 17 MPG combined with a Maverick that gets 37 combined that takes a lot of emissions out of the air.
 

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it’s a great price for the truck just think how cheap it would be if we didn’t have all these government regulations the time and money spent by ford to get their product to market
 
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I'm also wondering about possible problems with owning a partially certified Maverick, like...
-- Could you sell it used to someone in California?
-- What would happen if you decided to move to California?
I don't really know what the rules are about that kind of downstream sale.

Anyway, it makes me very doubtful that Ford would bother to do something like that.
Many moons ago, I worked for the CA DMV and this issue came up many times.

For CA residents, a 49-state vehicle can't be registered in CA as a new vehicle (>7500 miles on the odo). You'd need to take delivery of the vehicle and take the scenic route back to CA to put the necessary mileage on it before smogging it. There are a few exemptions.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/file/...lace your California,the vehicle out of state.

If you were an out-of-state resident moving to CA, you would need proof of registration in the state of origin AND have <7500 on the odo.

Those who live in CA and purchased from Granger, Long MacArthur and other out of state dealers should be aware of this and contact those dealers to verify that their vehicle is 50-state compliant.
 

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Seems to me, most of the ones they’ve already built are out in public on demo at Ford road shows and media events. I actually got to ride in a hybrid lariat this week at the outdoor Ford event in Austin. There were several hybrids there. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s where they’ve all ended up.
Not all. There are many retail hybrids, mine included, that are already built. Mine on 9/24. Sitting until a January delivery is not the greatest idea for the traction battery. Unless Ford does something to keep it from completely discharging it will effect the life of it.
 

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Ok, as I now understand it, without so much government regulation interfering with market forces:

(1) We wouldn't have all these fuel efficient vehicles because it's really CAFE standards that pushed car manufacturers to move in this direction, and

(2) We would have all these fuel efficient vehicles quicker and cheaper because the government interferes with getting them to market efficiently.

Apparently you can have your cake and yell at it too... :devilish:
 

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Ok, as I now understand it, without so much government regulation interfering with market forces:

(1) We wouldn't have all these fuel efficient vehicles because it's really CAFE standards that pushed car manufacturers to move in this direction, and

(2) We would have all these fuel efficient vehicles quicker and cheaper because the government interferes with getting them to market efficiently.

Apparently you can have your cake and yell at it too... :devilish:
I doubt we will really know why it took longer to get the EPA # on the Maverick, maybe the EPA wanted to really test the Maverick since it surpassed what Ford had stated...

BTW, you can have your cake and not get fat.... Look at the new crop of PHEV and EV cars coming out. I got to ride in a Tesla Model S Plaid... HOLY SH*T, in full lunch mode the car is insane, and I thought my 850hp BMW M5 was quick....

May people in this forum drool over the old muscle cars 429 SCJ Mustang, Chevelle SS 454, Old 442's. But cars today are faster, handle better, and get much better fuel economy.
 

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Ok, as I now understand it, without so much government regulation interfering with market forces:

(1) We wouldn't have all these fuel efficient vehicles because it's really CAFE standards that pushed car manufacturers to move in this direction, and

(2) We would have all these fuel efficient vehicles quicker and cheaper because the government interferes with getting them to market efficiently.

Apparently you can have your cake and yell at it too... :devilish:
Its funny that you think both are mutually exclusive, I can explain why they are not.

1) We wouldn't have all these fuel efficient vehicles because manufacturers focus on what sells and investment is thus dictated by consumer demand. Without government regulations, its likely there wouldn't be consumer demand because gasoline would be much less expensive, so fuel economy would take a back seat to other considerations. I mean, would you still pick the hybrid over the ecoboost if gasoline was $1 a gallon at the pump (which is possible, remember current prices are based on international cooperation to artificially restrict production far lower than what is possible)? I wouldn't, but that also wouldn't be a problem.

2) We would have all these fuel efficient vehicles quicker and cheaper without government interference on the condition that consumer demand existed as a strong driving force. So for example, if the public just became very eco conscious rather than self-serving on an individual basis (not likely) or fuel prices were very high not due to government interference but some other reason (say some epic war with China or something and a ban on domestic fracking for some reason).

In short, the government slows things down but is able to force manufacturers to build something even if consumers aren't even asking for it or can artificially create demand by altering normal market prices, and in that way can act as an artificial demand disrupting what would be normal in a natural laissez faire market.

tl;dr: Imagine I'm the government and, naturally, brain damaged. I see manure on the ground and throw it at you while making donkey noises, and then offer you a napkin which you can now certainly use to wipe off your face. Its true you wouldn't have the napkin if it wasn't for me, but you also wouldn't need it if it wasn't for me, and if you did need napkins for some other reason you could get them without having to go through all the bullcrap if I weren't around. :poop:
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