2.0 EcoBoost? Change everything (oil / fluids)!

[surfstar]

True! however, doing a lot of towing and AWDing with your PTU underfilled is pretty much a death sentence to the PTU if it is finally brought from 48% filled to the 100% level at the 1st recommended PTU oil change interval. I hope Ford is listening to me. I can almost guarantee that premature PTU failures will start to happen here pretty soon for some.

Why aren't they dropping dead yet?

For those people who read threads like this and can't sleep at night - buy the extended warranty.
I'm good with my factory one.

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[dalola]

I changed both RDU & PTU at ~13K miles, both were at correct capacity. PTU oil looked as new, RDU was a little murky, but nothing alarming. I'll be doing the ULV (trans) at ~30K, along with the RDU/PTU again, then all every 30K from here on. It's a pretty easy process, and the cost/benefit ratio is favorable to sooner vs later, IMO.

OP, I too would be very concerned if I only got 9 oz. of oil from the PTU!

 

[ndmiller]

The color does mean something. It’s an indicator albeit possibly a small indicator of the condition that the transmission fluid has experienced. Transmission fluid color is and indicator of the fluid’s age and use.

Complete nonsense, color alone says nothing about the condition of transmission fluid any more than any other fluid. As soon as it's added to the transmission the color changes as it's mixed with everything in the transmission used in the assembly process.

I managed to get some universal averages of all the Blackstone Labs tests results from all tests they have received from all the vehicles that use that transmission. I’ll let everyone chew on these results before chiming in on them. The proof is in the pudding.
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I'm not understanding, what does this column mean in terms of proof of what? There isn't anything but a column of data. Is this your sample tested? If so post the entire results and what blackstone has to say about the sample.

I'm not saying your transmission is good for a half million miles, but also not panicking about one persons transmission fluid color after <6000 miles.

 

[710-oil-614]

Why aren't they dropping dead yet?

For those people who read threads like this and can't sleep at night - buy the extended warranty.
I'm good with my factory one.

Go put a battery tender on your 12v or something.... (I'm just joking around!)

 

[Robber's Roost]

I would have been concerned about the trans fluid color too but I guess it's a Ford thing as of late. Have a look and listen from an experienced Ford mechanic.

 

[Sjurgen]

Complete nonsense, color alone says nothing about the condition of transmission fluid any more than any other fluid. As soon as it's added to the transmission the color changes as it's mixed with everything in the transmission used in the assembly process.




I'm not understanding, what does this column mean in terms of proof of what? There isn't anything but a column of data. Is this your sample tested? If so post the entire results and what blackstone has to say about the sample.

I'm not saying your transmission is good for a half million miles, but also not panicking about one persons transmission fluid color after <6000 miles.

I just got finished saying that the color is an indication of age and/or use conditions. Look up the columns using the internet. Go to the Blackstone website. Look up wear materials/metals that are produced by transmissions. I feel like im supposed to tell you what they mean. I’ve done much of the leg work for you. I feel like some think I’m lying or something. I’m not making this up. It’s all available on the internet. Consider the trend that Ford is displaying at not being able to fill a PTU completely at the factory, AND the dealership missing checking the PTU oil level. If Ford said you could go 30,000 miles between oil changes, I would take a hard look at all the intervals and in the case of the PTU level, all the lubrication fluid levels throughout the truck as soon as you receive it. Ford has been producing vehicles for a very long time, yet they were unable to catch a low PTU level twice that I know of. I don’t know how to explain this any more clearly than I already have. 100,000 miles to change the PTU oil?! That’s just not smart vehicle ownership to me.

 

[Sjurgen]

Complete nonsense, color alone says nothing about the condition of transmission fluid any more than any other fluid. As soon as it's added to the transmission the color changes as it's mixed with everything in the transmission used in the assembly process.




I'm not understanding, what does this column mean in terms of proof of what? There isn't anything but a column of data. Is this your sample tested? If so post the entire results and what blackstone has to say about the sample.

I'm not saying your transmission is good for a half million miles, but also not panicking about one persons transmission fluid color after <6000 miles.

I just stated that those are the “universal averages”. That’s what those columns are.

 

[Sjurgen]

I changed both RDU & PTU at ~13K miles, both were at correct capacity. PTU oil looked as new, RDU was a little murky, but nothing alarming. I'll be doing the ULV (trans) at ~30K, along with the RDU/PTU again, then all every 30K from here on. It's a pretty easy process, and the cost/benefit ratio is favorable to sooner vs later, IMO.

OP, I too would be very concerned if I only got 9 oz. of oil from the PTU!

Thank you dadola! I swear. I did. I emptied my PTU straight into a glass measuring cup. And everyone. Think of it this way. How concern would you be if your 2.0 EB engine was half full the whole time to 6000 miles? I won’t tell you how I would feel or what I think the ramifications would be to the longevity of the engine.

 

[Blinky]

********More baloney from a worry wart.
Daniel did not have a transmission failure. it was a broken wire and hard to diagnose. Probably snagged plowing into heavy snow or some other stuff he had fun doing in his videos. Our cobalt had the same issue. Was stolen then found all beat up. Chevy went as far as pulling it just like in Daniels case. Took a LOT of effort and time to figure it out.

I'm interested in where you learned that, do you have a link?
It's been a while since I watched his original transmission failure video so I may have missed him blaming it on a wire but in his last few videos he specifically mentioned transmission failure, not anything about a broken wire.

As for the worry wart accusation, take your baloney and go fly a kite.
I mentioned that someone had a transmission failure, a person who admitted that they should have changed their fluid much sooner, and suggested that shorter fluid change intervals might be prudent. I think anyone who has any mechanical sympathy realizes that 100,000 mile intervals are unreasonably long.

I agree that "fluid changes are the cheapest maintenance you can do", but that statement doesn't give anyone a sense of how often those changes should occur. Why not change them all once a month?

Why not? If you can afford it and want to, then give er hell.
Orrrr you could look at the severe service maintenance recommendations and think about how you've been using the truck. If you're towing or constantly hauling max payload, then probably look at closer to the 30k mile interval, or even shorter if you're regularly dragging a max weight trailer up a mountain in 110 degree heat.

I plan to change all my fluids after about 4000-5000 miles then stick to the lower recommended intervals after that. Doing such in the past has never caused me any issues and I like the peace of mind.

 

[Pops_Maverick]

I’m going to speak strongly about this. With myself and others finding their PTU’s under filled, lots of metal debris and the fluid of very bad condition (mine was more than 50% underfilled!). There being no real break-in procedure for the 2.0 EB engine (Ford doesn’t put in break-in oil at the factory). The color of the transmission fluid i just changed at 5800 miles. Everyone! Please listen to me. Change your engine, PTU, transmission & RDU at at east 5000 miles If not change the PTU oil as soon as you take delivery. Don’t rely on the warranty to make things right. The PTU underfiling and the transmission fluid issues are things that will surely prematurely fail after our warranty ends. I personally want my Maverick to last a long time. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me.

I'm kinda new to the MTC (irony) but what's PTU and RDU stand for?

 

[dalola]

I'm kinda new to the MTC (irony) but what's PTU and RDU stand for?

PTU= Power Transfer Unit (like a transfer case for a FWD biased vehicle with AWD)
RDU= Rear Differential Unit

 

[Pops_Maverick]

PTU= Power Transfer Unit (like a transfer case for a FWD biased vehicle with AWD)
RDU= Rear Differential Unit

Thank you! I'm catching up.

 

[Sjurgen]

I'm kinda new to the MTC (irony) but what's PTU and RDU stand for?

Power transfer unit (fwd end of drive line) & rear differential unit (in the middle of rear wheels)

 

[Sjurgen]

I just stated that those are the “universal averages”. That’s what those columns are.

Additionally. The color does say something about the condition of the tranny fluid. Do the research. Just like motor oil. It changes color during use. 1 of the primary elements that make motor oil dark is soot. Even after several oil changes. The oil darkens. At this point what ever materials or sealers that have been used during the assembly of the engine have certainly washed out. So you tell me, what does cause used lubricants to darken? Please?

 

[Montana]

The one thing I have not done is the tranny.

Looks like it'll be my first task once it warms up and dries a bit. I've been neglecting it, not gonna lie.

Thanks for sharing.

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