Let's talk numbers. Hybrid vs Ecoboost $$,$$$

[TyPope]

There is a border there. I've seen it. I see what you are trying to get at but that's sort of like pointing out the border between the US and Canada. I was just pointing out that it would be nice if American workers who pay taxes and are part of us assembled the Mavericks rather than those dollars going to another country.

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[whitef]

I've never had winter tires before and (in Texas) I'm probably not going to need them anytime soon. That said, in a FWD car, works it be possible to only put them on the front? I know it would negatively affect braking, but with the Maverick being front heavy and FWD would that make a big difference?

I think that would go badly.

First, there is a HUGE improvement in grip with the winter tires at lower temperatures. Add in some slippery surfaces and you're likely to create a condition where the rear is unstable and the ABS / stability control systems are confused. Going straight would be okay, but a spin would be much more likely, and much harder to correct once it started. Hard braking would also likely upset the rear end more also.

 

[SpaceyMac]

https://www.caranddriver.com/car-insurance/a35292907/are-hybrids-more-expensive-to-insure/

This article is written by a bot. Its main data point is taken from a Nerd Wallet article from 2015. Hybrids have been in market since 1997 when Toyota released the Prius. All shops work on hybrids, they are not that different and don't require a bunch of specialized tools. When I purchased my current hybrid in 2015, my insurance cost went down.

The other point this article attempts to make is hybrids cost more so insurance is higher. That may be true, but if the eco boost and hybrid are the same cost, insurance cost should be the same on both vehicles.

Hybrid powertrain should outlast the ecoboost due to reduced engine run time.

 

[JimParker256]

Costs more to fix

I just replaced a 2012 Prius-C worth roughly $8K with a '22 Maverick Hybrid Lariat First Edition insured for full replacement value ($43K in today's market, by the time you factor in ADM). My 6-month premium went up about $50 total. Don't know if it's the Hybrids, or the extra "safety stuff" in the Lariat Lux/CP360 or what, but I was totally surprised by the low cost to insure.

 

[Bobby L]

Does sound like an awd might have been a better choice.

Hybrid vs 4wd
this is my first ford hybrid but I was told that the front wheels turned egual on take off. I’ve had two Prius and the only thing that would keep me at home is when the snow was over 6 inches, not ice, sleet, or a combination of both. I’m look forward to this winter to see how it goes. If I’m right a 4 wd is not awd and only two wheels turn at a time. I use to drive 30k miles a year in Ohio an WV as an inspector for the states an had know problems at all.
I think if you want a 4wd that’s what you should have got and don’t blame it on the winters.

 

[Maverick2112]

When I placed my order for my 2022, the hybrid was cheaper and it gets better mileage. It' that simple and a no-brainer for me, since I do not need to tow and FWD is fine for where I am in Michigan if you have good tires.

 

[Ron Neal]

I don't remember what I paid. At my age a clean restroom is more important.

 

[mavmav]

I just ordered Michelin crossclimate2 tires. $1,002 - not cheap. they are not winter tires but have good snow rating. I will drop pair of tire chains as an emergency. these 235/65r17 will go on original metal rims.
CROSSCLIMATE2 - SIZE: 235/65R17

 

[futuremavowner]

I have a hybrid for about two month. Great small pickup car. I used to love it by the time i stock in snow driving uphill. Than, i felt embarrassed and powerful, my maverick Hybrid love start to fade. (something like this - you got the drama. )
Next, I got home and asked myself. Why I got 2WD ? I always had AWD or 4x4. my answer was simple. I wanted to save money. I wanted a car under 20k that takes 42 mpg. I WAS WRONG.
I should have put those numbers in excel before i purchase hybrid. i could pay 5k more and get ecoboost 4x4 option and spend extra
$2,604 in fuel per 100k.
I assumed cost per gallon in $3.50. Driving hybrid 100k miles will cost $8,333 on EB 100k $10,937. Depending how and where you drive what are your calculations? Why would you choose EB vs Hybrid or Hybrid vs EB? Thank you!

I put my 30,000 mile annual drive into a spreadsheet at the 80% highway usage I travel and came up with $40 more a month in gas, $80 if it goes back to $4 a gallon based on multiple real world mpg tests readily available on YouTube. With only 50% of hybrids being built this year, I drove right over to my dealer and switched my order on my 23 Lariat to ecoboost AWD. Easy decision for me.

 

[mattfromca]

Isn't the EcoBoost engine like $2500 more to begin with also?

 

[inthecabin]

The problem with the eco boost is keeping your foot out of pushing the fun pedal too much. The hybrid reminds you of economy. So spin it how you may the psychological issue comes to play while driving. A lot of people just can’t stand temptation so their mileage drops. That said the EB still gets great mileage.

 

[jsus]

I've never had winter tires before and (in Texas) I'm probably not going to need them anytime soon. That said, in a FWD car, works it be possible to only put them on the front? I know it would negatively affect braking, but with the Maverick being front heavy and FWD would that make a big difference?

No, winter tires need to be in a complete set of 4. Otherwise, you have one axle with decent traction and the other with poor traction. It creates instability front and rear that ultimately means the pair of winter tires really aren’t helping you. Doesn’t matter if FWD, RWD, or AWD.

 

[Starwatcher]

Costs more to fix

How can it cost more to fix, when you can’t get the parts to fix it?

 

[Impetus19]

I am not even sure why it is a discussion because only the lucky few are even getting hybrids at this point. but generally speaking, if you think a 2.0 turbocharged engine with standard slushbox is going to last 2/3 as long as a hybrid with ecvt… well, good luck with that. But then again, good luck getting a hybrid too.

 

[MTK46]

Isn't the EcoBoost engine like $2500 more to begin with also?

Only if your order is for a Lariat. No extra cost for XL or XLT

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