2025 Maverick Hybrid HF55 Transaxle Info (nice write up)

[ListedGuru]

I agree. The 25 hybrid to me feels more like a redesign since there have been so many changes and improvements (AWD, new stronger HF55 transmission, better battery charging system, better cooling, better gear ratio, more power, 4k tow package, no more grabby brakes at low speed or when wet and a lot less odd sounds and clicks when the vehicle is off). On top of all those big changes you have the new and I feel improved front end design and much better infotainment system. I was happy with my 22 xlt hybrid (even with all the odd things it did) but I'm loving my 25 much more.

Glad to hear your loving your new 2025 Maverick hybrid. It certainly sounds like the 25 has really improved on what was an already great truck. Also I just noticed in your profile pic that you have a Ruby Red XLT. I had my dealer tag (hold) and incoming 25 XLT AWD hybrid for me yesterday in Ruby Red. I have never seen this color Maverick in the wild so to speak and it looks like there might be a few at one dealer that's about 30 minutes from me so not sure I want to make the trek, lol. I found out this morning that my other option would be white which honestly I think looks good on the Mav.

The issue around me is the hybrid (let alone AWD hybrids) are really tough to find especially ones that have already been invoiced before the latest price increase on May 2nd (I think). I could order one or what for another one to come in but it would literally cost me $1250 more for the same exact truck so that's a no go for me.

So getting back to the Ruby Red color I assume your happy with it? My worry was that the navy pier blue interior would clash with the Red but honestly I don't know. I've looked at a lot of pictures (real, no fake) of the RR Maverick online and even watched some videos but honestly color is what one of those things you really need to see in person. I think I would be happy with a RR overall though. I know RR is a slight upcharge but do you feel the paint job on yours is decent and will hold up well over time? I know stone chips are inevitable and a fact of life but they still suck. I have a 24 Mustang GT in Atlas Blue and it's gorgeous but I have some stone chips on it already and it sucks. I'm just hoping that the paint job on the RR (or white if I go that route) is nice and holds up over time.

If you have any more pics of your RR maybe that catches the interior against the RR please post them as I'm so far down this rabbit hole right now there's not turning back

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[Scupking]

Glad to hear your loving your new 2025 Maverick hybrid. It certainly sounds like the 25 has really improved on what was an already great truck. Also I just noticed in your profile pic that you have a Ruby Red XLT. I had my dealer tag (hold) and incoming 25 XLT AWD hybrid for me yesterday in Ruby Red. I have never seen this color Maverick in the wild so to speak and it looks like there might be a few at one dealer that's about 30 minutes from me so not sure I want to make the trek, lol. I found out this morning that my other option would be white which honestly I think looks good on the Mav.

The issue around me is the hybrid (let alone AWD hybrids) are really tough to find especially ones that have already been invoiced before the latest price increase on May 2nd (I think). I could order one or what for another one to come in but it would literally cost me $1250 more for the same exact truck so that's a no go for me.

So getting back to the Ruby Red color I assume your happy with it? My worry was that the navy pier blue interior would clash with the Red but honestly I don't know. I've looked at a lot of pictures (real, no fake) of the RR Maverick online and even watched some videos but honestly color is what one of those things you really need to see in person. I think I would be happy with a RR overall though. I know RR is a slight upcharge but do you feel the paint job on yours is decent and will hold up well over time? I know stone chips are inevitable and a fact of life but they still suck. I have a 24 Mustang GT in Atlas Blue and it's gorgeous but I have some stone chips on it already and it sucks. I'm just hoping that the paint job on the RR (or white if I go that route) is nice and holds up over time.

If you have any more pics of your RR maybe that catches the interior against the RR please post them as I'm so far down this rabbit hole right now there's not turning back

I absolutely love my Ruby Red. My 22 was white. Pictures make the interior look more blue than it actually is. Go with the Red it's such a great color.

 

[LSchicago]

Thanks for the reply back and all the good information. I found an incoming XLT Maverick that my dealership has put on hold for me so I'm going to check it out when it comes in. It's a 25 AWD XLT Hybrid and will be a change going from my Mustang but it just seems like it's time to get in a more practical vehicle here in MI.

I know you went from a 23 Hybrid to a 25 Hybrid so I have a few questions for you. Did you do anything about covering the hole in the wheel wells on the one side in your 23 or your 25? This is what I'm referring to:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...body-cavity-shield-covers-just-arrived.59568/

Also since you've had a 23 and now a 25 I'm wondering if you can comment on the whine or siren noise owners of the 25's are noticing that appears to be something different than the previous years hybrids. Some are saying maybe it has to do with the new HF55 system? Here is a thread for reference:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/25-maverick-hybrid-wine-when-ice-comes-on.66441/

Last but not least I'm curious if you had any of the 12v battery deep sleep issues with your 23 or if you've see any of those issues with your 25? I know the 25's should have an AGM battery in it but it sounds like some 25 owners have had deep sleep issues already so this appears to be either a software or hardware issue that hopefully Ford will be fixing.

My wife has a 23 Escape Hybrid AWD for two years now and we've been through a few 12v batteries on it but it's a great vehicle overall and it does really well in the winter here in MI. I briefly drove a used 22 Maverick Hybrid earlier this week and it drove pretty much the same as my wife's Escape and I really liked it. I'm going to try and drive a 25 if I can find one before the one the dealer has on hold for me comes in. I want to see if I notice that whine or whistle I mentioned earlier on the 25 and just see how I like it overall compared to the 22 I drove. I think my dealer has a few 25 XL FWD's on the lot I can drive so it should be a close comparison (I hope, lol).

I had zero deep sleep issues in the 13 months and 28,000 miles I had my 23. Backup screen froze a few times, only issue I had. It was a good little truck. The whine on the 25 is a bit louder than the 23, but still not what I would call loud. It's a bigger generator, so it's going to sound a bit louder. But it works well, and I'm happy with the mpg increase over my FWD hybrid.

 

[ricklee4570]

I think the HP and Torque ratings are the same. The only reason the 2025 is quicker is if you have the 4k version, with different gearing. If you get a 2025 XL with the 2k tow package, the 0-60 times are the same as previous models, since it will have 2.91 gears.

 

[HeyBales]

no more grabby brakes at low speed or when wet

Now that is interesting for the wet aspect, just reminded of that lately and just how annoying it is pushing just a tad and gently past regen into the pads, and they grab harder.

And indeed when combined with low speed a bit more difference than you want to feel.

 

[Waterick]

I think the HP and Torque ratings are the same. The only reason the 2025 is quicker is if you have the 4k version, with different gearing. If you get a 2025 XL with the 2k tow package, the 0-60 times are the same as previous models, since it will have 2.91 gears.

AFIK, the gearing on all ('25 MY) hybrids is the same. Another possible reason for the quicker acceleration might just be the AWD vs the FWD. (More traction).

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Now that is interesting for the wet aspect, just reminded of that lately and just how annoying it is pushing just a tad and gently past regen into the pads, and they grab harder.

And indeed when combined with low speed a bit more difference than you want to feel.

If you are really light on brake pedal it is possible to Regen coast down to the (2-3 mph ?) where Regen ceases and the computer realizes that the pedal is pressed just an itsy bit and slams on the hydraulics.

 

[LSchicago]

I think the HP and Torque ratings are the same. The only reason the 2025 is quicker is if you have the 4k version, with different gearing. If you get a 2025 XL with the 2k tow package, the 0-60 times are the same as previous models, since it will have 2.91 gears.

All 25 Hybrids come with a larger more powerful electric motor. And all come with better gearing than previous years. No gearing difference for tow package.

 

[HeyBales]

If you are really light on brake pedal it is possible to Regen coast down to the (2-3 mph ?) where Regen ceases and the computer realizes that the pedal is pressed just an itsy bit and slams on the hydraulics.

When dry that final low speed grab isn't that badly noticeable. Depends if max on the regen and lots of forward momentum already. My normal braking routine isn't that though, I rarely feel the need to come into a red light as fast as possible to use my time on the phone.
But when wet, wow.

My attempt at higher speed just gently pressing past regen was to see if possible to like clear the water off rotors if that was related. I guess not.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

When dry that final low speed grab isn't that badly noticeable. Depends if max on the regen and lots of forward momentum already. My normal braking routine isn't that though, I rarely feel the need to come into a red light as fast as possible to use my time on the phone.
But when wet, wow.

My attempt at higher speed just gently pressing past regen was to see if possible to like clear the water off rotors if that was related. I guess not.

When wet I brake hard use hydraulics for two or three times to clear water/new light rust(?).

 

[MarkLally]

I can attest that the 2025 Maverick hybrids are notably quicker than the prior years. I previously owned a 2023 FWD hybrid, I now own a 2025 hybrid AWD Maverick. My wife still owns a 2023 FWD hybrid and her son just bought a 2025 FWD hybrid. I have driven all of them and both of the 2025's are notably quicker.

 

[DevoMcDev0]

You provided a lot of drawings and animations. I'm sure many will appreciate those. But let me clarify a few points. Your descriptions were wrong.

MG1 is a Toyota term. Not a Ford term.
MG1 equivalency in a Ford is the Generator/Starter motor and is usually, in the first four generations, the smaller of two.

The smaller "Generator / Starter" is connected to the sun gear.

MG2 is a Toyota term. Not a Ford term.
MG2 equivalency in a Ford is the Traction Motor and in the first four generations of eCVT is the larger of the two.

(There is debate / confusion in this thread about which is largest in the 2025 fifth generation eCVT.)

The larger Traction Motor is connected to the ring gear. The larger traction motor provides regen braking / battery recharging, as well as EV mode propulsion.

The gasoline engine is connected to the planet carrier.

The wheels / output shaft are directly linked to the ring gear. The physical arrangement is: Traction motor to final drive (wheels) then final drive (wheels) to transfer gear, transfer gear to ring gear. As in the top drawing, the traction motor is physically outside of the planetary gearset, but meshes with the planetary ring gear after passing through the output shaft gear and transfer gear first.

The output gear / shaft is not shown in any of the pictures above. But is below.

Anytime the wheels are moving, the ring gear and traction motor are moving. The traction motor spins roughy 10 revolutions per wheel revolution. And the generator/starter spins an equal speed in the opposite direction when the engine is off. As the engine starts and speeds up, the generator slows down (gets less negative rpm). If the wheels are stationary, then the generator must spin if the engine is spinning and this will be a fixed ratio. The generator may recharge the battery, or it may freewheel. Just like when coasting down a hill, the traction motor may generate to recharge the battery, or it may freewheel.

The smaller generator / starter does not regen brake, which may be counter intuitive to some.

Of worthy note: the oil pump is connected to the planet carrier, thus fresh transmission oil is only circulated while the gasoline engine is running. Which is likely the reason you'll need to start the gas engine every 5-6 hours while flat towing. There is no disconnect of the gears while neutral flat towing. Just the power in and out of the transmission is disconnected.

FLOW:

Yellow is Traction motor (MG2)

Red is final drive / to & from wheels

Blue is a transfer gear

Purple is Planetary Gearset (outside of ring connects to blue gear, not directly to traction motor, but gets to the traction motor eventually).

Green is Generator / Starter
DudeMotor (MG1)

Engine comes in from below the table and connects to the planet carrier. (Not visible)

So not quite like the animations, but close.

Image courtesy of WeberAuto YouTube Channel

Dude, that stuff is phasmatical, I do not have a brain that processes 3D shit very well.

It works, I have not interpreted how exactly it does.

Yet.

 

[The Real Maverick]

I can attest that the 2025 Maverick hybrids are notably quicker than the prior years. I previously owned a 2023 FWD hybrid, I now own a 2025 hybrid AWD Maverick. My wife still owns a 2023 FWD hybrid and her son just bought a 2025 FWD hybrid. I have driven all of them and both of the 2025's are notably quicker.

Programming could account for this if the hardware remained the same.

It's probably a tiny hardware tweak with a software tweak too.

 

[Waterick]

What big time upgrades to the 2.0 EB?
Like 4 more cylinders? What?

A little something about both port and direct injection along with a different engine block casting, cams and many other engine components.

 

[The Real Maverick]

A little something about both port and direct injection along with a different engine block casting, cams and many other engine components.

Thanks. I don't routinely follow such outdated automotive technology as having just a gasoline engine.

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