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It's great to document things, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease. The Honda white orchid pearl paint recall or CVT extended warranty would not have happened without owners raising the problem to dealers and Honda customer service.So, basically, since this vehicle starts at ~$20K, we should lower our expectations and accept substandard quality (e.g slag, paint issues, cracked body sealer/adhesive).
Compound that with it being a first model year and all the associated issues that come with that, then we should wait...
...or accept mediocrity based on uniqueness and cost?
I think the issue arises because it can be tricky at times to distinguish the posts that are just documenting issues, but the problems don't actually bother them at all or to any significant degree, and those that expect flawless perfection because they spent "X" dollars on their specific truck.
Some of these folks must be spending all night in their garages, analyzing every centimeter of the truck. I wouldn't even notice half these imperfections, let alone let them bother me. The hood shake is definitely concerning though, and I appreciate that others have posted about it.
I don't think noticeable flaws are limited to first-production vehicles. Any mass-produced product will have a threshold of acceptable flaws, contamination, imperfections, failures, etc. Heck, the FDA has limits on the amount of insect parts permitted in ground spices and other foodstuffs, and it sure ain't 0.Ok this thread is hilarious and informative for everyone buying a first production vehicleā¦ it WILL have noticeable flaws. Check any new production first year introduction vehicle..
Thatās why people wait a year or two to buy.
Iāve been the victim of the āearly adopter ā a few times realizing the risks involved. Disheartening yes but hey it comes with the territory. Itās hardest your first time but this is where experience got itās dubious fameā¦
Remember that you just had to have it first without waiting
Enjoy as best you can!!
Who knows, my DSF fender on my Ford Edge might have passed QC with its welding slag or whatever that was on it. Again, there is an acceptable level of imperfections.
The threshold is probably set where Ford determines that fixing the problem as a potential warranty claim is probably cheaper than sending the entire unibody chassis back for a repair and repaint in the factory.
Same goes for like the bed liner overspray. My Nissan Frontier has noticeable overspray with its factory-applied bed liner. Nissan probably determined that doing a "good enough" masking job and potentially fixing things as a warranty claim was cheaper than doing a perfect masking job that the vast majority of buyers wouldn't notice.
I'll even use myself as an example. I work a trade right now. Management sets the standards for the quality of work. Sure, I could spend 12 hours doing one job to near-absolute-perfection, but then output is too low. Instead, management says I get one hour to do the job, I do the best I can, and they're happy with the results, so I move on to the next job.
I'm a huge Ford fan and have owned at least a dozen Fords. I try to avoid buying a Ford before the midcycle refresh, so I'll be hiding in the bushes waiting for the Maverick's refresh to happen.
Again, I think the issue is distinguishing between complaints and reports. I'm sure there are countless folks (including myself, and probably a bunch of lurkers that aren't registered) that appreciate that you took the time to report the issues that you found.Well aware, Andy. Not sure whatās so āhilarious.ā Would you rather me not post the issues? I could have just went to the dealer and got everything fixed and not said a word. Instead I posted this to make everyone aware what to look for.
Granted, I'd just breeze through your report with the mental note that those issues other than the cracked wheel wouldn't bother me. But it's still reassuring to know what kinds of issues folks are seeing, rather than just being in the dark.
It'll also be interesting to see if the issues reported get fixed in later years or during the midcycle refresh. I forgot what car it was, but I remember an auto manufacturer adding a couple of foam pads in the center console lid after hundreds of reports of rattling consoles. My hat's off to you early-adopters!
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