Odd Brakes in Hybrid Maverick

[LSchicago]

Rear brakes only, sounds like something most Harley riders used to do.

Hey, it worked for the Model T's. LOL.

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[MLowe05]

I wonder if they could be shipping with an update to ABS , or will I just need the break in period before I experience it ?

I literally cannot tell a driving difference outside of increased deacceleration when off the gas.

I have only driven 1 other Hybrid (22 Corolla recently) , but have probably driven hundreds of vehicles as I was a paid driver for a dealership for a few years in college, and have driven all different types of vehicles.

I was pretty worried about needing to "learn" the braking system and live with this odd behavior, and I 100% believe everyone so not discrediting anyone on it. I consider myself lucky to not have seen it, at least yet ( knock on wood )

I just saw your post. I actually experienced it frequently in the first few days with my hybrid, but since I've gotten accustomed to driving it there really hasn't been too many issues. I also wondered if they were shipping recently built ones with new programming, but I'd say based on those first few days - no. I expect it will happen to you eventually.

I also sometimes get a jolt/clunk when the ICE shuts off. Not often, but it does happen.

 

[GPSMan]

Diito.

expected this 2022 hybrid to be "better" than the 2005 hybrid Escape.

The MPG is better. Everything else has me a little worried.

And I LOVED the 2005 Escape Hybrid and had zero trouble or complaints with it.

 

[OXHB619]

I just saw your post. I actually experienced it frequently in the first few days with my hybrid, but since I've gotten accustomed to driving it there really hasn't been too many issues. I also wondered if they were shipping recently built ones with new programming, but I'd say based on those first few days - no. I expect it will happen to you eventually.

I also sometimes get a jolt/clunk when the ICE shuts off. Not often, but it does happen.

I thought I had a light thunk, but not abrupt "clunk" a day ago. It was not worrying but I did notice. Still unable to recreate the mushy sudden grab, and I think I am making it worse by always hunting for it looking for it.

Maybe I have it and am just less sensitive to the grab than others ? I am not convinced I have a unicorn truck in not experiencing it, just a unicorn that I actually have one .. You were built in September too right ?

I am sure I will keep obsessing looking for it at low speeds.

 

[MLowe05]

I thought I had a light thunk, but not abrupt "clunk" a day ago. It was not worrying but I did notice. Still unable to recreate the mushy sudden grab, and I think I am making it worse by always hunting for it looking for it.

Maybe I have it and am just less sensitive to the grab than others ? I am not convinced I have a unicorn truck in not experiencing it, just a unicorn that I actually have one .. You were built in September too right ?

I am sure I will keep obsessing looking for it at low speeds.

Yeah my build day was 9/10 with a "built" status of 9/19.

I knew it was likely going to be an issue, and it happened almost right away. But it does get easier to drive around after a while. I'm still looking forward to a reprogram.

How many miles do you have?

 

[OXHB619]

Yeah my build day was 9/10 with a "built" status of 9/19.

I knew it was likely going to be an issue, and it happened almost right away. But it does get easier to drive around after a while. I'm still looking forward to a reprogram.

How many miles do you have?

152, all my driving is reallllly short.

 

[chuckles]

I now have 250miles. A light thunk is noticeable on most stops. I hadn't related it to the ICE shutting down but its possible/likely. The noise is more of a curiosity at the moment and doesn't seem to be a problem. The brakes are still grabby, but usable. Obviously, I need to get some miles in it.

 

[MLowe05]

152, all my driving is reallllly short.

So you have not used ACC yet? It does OK but the hybrid drivetrain programming really needs polish to make it smoother.

 

[OXHB619]

So you have not used ACC yet? It does OK but the hybrid drivetrain programming really needs polish to make it smoother.

I have used it like 3 times on the interstate, both times less than 5 miles, no issues with braking, accelerating I felt like it was being aggressive but was also in normal not in eco, which I believe tames the ACC aggressiveness (at least it did in my XL EB with basic cruise). My old Toyota cruise control was the definition of aggressive.

I really wish I had ACC when I drove half across the country in my XL EB in the summer, but also part of the reason I did it is I was putting miles on a future trade in during a sellers market so I didn't care about miles or risks of paint chips. ( only picked up 1 on the bumper, and 3 tiny pits in the windshield with around 4-5k interstate miles. )

 

[MLowe05]

I have used it like 3 times on the interstate, both times less than 5 miles, no issues with braking, accelerating I felt like it was being aggressive but was also in normal not in eco, which I believe tames the ACC aggressiveness (at least it did in my XL EB with basic cruise). My old Toyota cruise control was the definition of aggressive.

I really wish I had ACC when I drove half across the country in my XL EB in the summer, but also part of the reason I did it is I was putting miles on a future trade in during a sellers market so I didn't care about miles or risks of paint chips. ( only picked up 1 on the bumper, and 3 tiny pits in the windshield with around 4-5k interstate miles. )

I might have been spoiled by my recent cars being Mercedes, Porsche, Volvo, Genesis, Acura..

 

[DreamWeaver21]

Yesterday when I was leaving work it was:
1. Cold
2. Raining
3. First starting out into stop and go (slow go) traffic

Which seems to be the trifecta of conditions that make the brake issue most noticeable. My truck was doing it a lot. Push brake pedal - nothing. Push brake pedal harder - nothing. Push harder - Clunk and jerk stop. Crawl a car length further and repeat.

I saw someone else posted that they push the L button on the shift knob when in these conditions so I tried it. It "fixed" it. I am not sure what the L button actually does and have not used it in the 6 months or so I have owned this Maverick hybrid, but I can confirm that the weird braking behavior seems to go away when it is engaged.

 

[KeinoDoggy]

Yesterday when I was leaving work it was:
1. Cold
2. Raining
3. First starting out into stop and go (slow go) traffic

Which seems to be the trifecta of conditions that make the brake issue most noticeable. My truck was doing it a lot. Push brake pedal - nothing. Push brake pedal harder - nothing. Push harder - Clunk and jerk stop. Crawl a car length further and repeat.

I saw someone else posted that they push the L button on the shift knob when in these conditions so I tried it. It "fixed" it. I am not sure what the L button actually does and have not used it in the 6 months or so I have owned this Maverick hybrid, but I can confirm that the weird braking behavior seems to go away when it is engaged.

I hate it when the "clunk" happens. Very odd feeling.

 

[Stive]

I hate it when the "clunk" happens. Very odd feeling.

Agree. Some are louder or more abrupt than others. I‘m aware that it could happen so it doesn’t surprise me as much. I have over 5k miles on mine.

 

[GPSMan]

L increases regen to a strong level. L still can't help stop you at 3 mph and under. Hydraulic brakes do that.

 

[SuperDave71]

I run in L , normal mode all the time. Technically is low range, but in reality it is more of a “1 pedal mode” like on an EV. When moving at speed, lift your foot off the accelerator and you get maximized regen braking. While In traffic I’ve learned to feather for a more of a coast effect.

low on a traditional gasser is really a low transmission range. On the eCVT it seems like it’s just an accelerator pedal mode.

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