Sponsored

Would you buy an EV maverick for 25-30k?

Snox801

2.0L EcoBoost
Well-known member
First Name
Levi
Joined
Nov 16, 2023
Threads
39
Messages
1,742
Reaction score
2,036
Location
Spring Lake Michigan
Vehicle(s)
23 F150-2016 RS/ 22 GT500/ rx8 x2/ 95 mustang GT/ 17 edge.
Engine
2.0L EcoBoost
30k electric maverick? Shut up and take my money.

I’m a carpenter who puts 20, maybe 30 miles on my truck any given week. Not paying for gas ever again, and being able to charge/run tools off the truck would be lovely. The f150 lightning was appealing, but too big both in size and price.
So you spend very little on fuel as it stands. Maybe $5-10 a week. And buying fuel is the problem? You will
More than likely spend more for the electricity to charge it. It will lose charge as all batteries do even when not driven. I’m really shocked at some people’s lack of reasoning. No if you said I think they are neat or any other reason I’d say cool to each their own. But to never buy gas again when you already by basically a gallon a week. Ha
Sponsored

 

Snox801

2.0L EcoBoost
Well-known member
First Name
Levi
Joined
Nov 16, 2023
Threads
39
Messages
1,742
Reaction score
2,036
Location
Spring Lake Michigan
Vehicle(s)
23 F150-2016 RS/ 22 GT500/ rx8 x2/ 95 mustang GT/ 17 edge.
Engine
2.0L EcoBoost
Agreed, the reality is sales every year are breaking records not only in the USA but also around the world. Last year, there were just under 1.2 million new EVs sold in the USA, a new record.

Looking at the data, the YoY (Year over Year) sales of BEVs rose throughout all of 2023, and while sales in Q3 and Q4 2023 were slower in the 2nd half of the year, data shows YoY increased significantly over the same period in 2022. Follow the data, not the naysayers.
Yes but all vehicles rose because they were coming out of the shortage. Follow the data not the naysayers.
Almost every type of vehicle had higher sales why because you could get a f-150 in 6 weeks form order date not 9 months.
 

Sykotyk

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
Joined
Jan 27, 2022
Threads
16
Messages
648
Reaction score
881
Location
Ohio
Vehicle(s)
2022 Ford Maverick
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
So you spend very little on fuel as it stands. Maybe $5-10 a week. And buying fuel is the problem? You will
More than likely spend more for the electricity to charge it. It will lose charge as all batteries do even when not driven. I’m really shocked at some people’s lack of reasoning. No if you said I think they are neat or any other reason I’d say cool to each their own. But to never buy gas again when you already by basically a gallon a week. Ha
You missed the part where he said he liked being able to run tools off the truck. Guess right now he's using a generator. So, that's another engine plus gas for it.
 

bbhaag

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 21, 2021
Threads
15
Messages
1,796
Reaction score
3,298
Location
Illinois
Vehicle(s)
Maverick XLT, Mustang Mach-E GT Performance
Engine
Undecided
Yes but all vehicles rose because they were coming out of the shortage. Follow the data not the naysayers.
Almost every type of vehicle had higher sales why because you could get a f-150 in 6 weeks form order date not 9 months.
Yes all vehicle sales increased in 2023 including EVs. If it was all doom and gloom like a lot of posts in this thread would lead me to believe shouldn't that be the opposite? Shouldn't EV sales be falling instead of increasing every year?

It's not just in the USA either. On a global scale EVs are gaining popularity and growing rapidly. In Germany last year, EV sales were up 38% year over year and now have an 18% market share and in China an estimated 1.6 million EVs were sold. EVs even outsold diesel vehicles in Europe last year too which is historically the largest market for diesel vehicles.
 
Last edited:
OP
OP
OneAlienBoi

OneAlienBoi

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
First Name
Kev
Joined
Jul 22, 2022
Threads
59
Messages
1,271
Reaction score
2,346
Location
Utah
Vehicle(s)
Explorer
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
No, because I live in the sticks. A typical trip to Home Depot is over 100 miles, and the Maverick hybrid is perfect for my needs--tows my trailer, carries crap to the dump, can carry sheets of plywood, etc.

But an inexpensive 2nd BEV you bet I'm interested in. Maybe not a Maverick (already have a truck, and I need to drive it pretty far), but I'd love to replace my Subaru with an AWD EV.

And--and I know this is probably an unpopular opinion in here--it's not just because it would be super-economical to run, it's because it would produce hardly any GHG emissions.
So the electric maverick might not be for you, but the EV bronco sport they're developing could be right down your alley when it comes time to replace that Subaru.
 

Sponsored

OP
OP
OneAlienBoi

OneAlienBoi

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
First Name
Kev
Joined
Jul 22, 2022
Threads
59
Messages
1,271
Reaction score
2,346
Location
Utah
Vehicle(s)
Explorer
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
Or the fact they know they can go all in on ev and when it fails they are
“ to big to fail and get more money from Joe six pack.”

Your logic is a joke. I’m old enough to remember when the big 3 thought they knew better than Joe six pack what Joe wanted. Then they needed bailouts to not fold up. So maybe they don’t know much of anything. Maybe listen to Joe six pack of what he wants or needs. You know maybe give consumers what they want?
To be fair, that's exactly what Ford is doing. They're being told "Hey, enough with the six figure EVs, give us affordable EVs and more hybrids" that's exactly what they're doing.
 

rmay635703

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
First Name
Ryan
Joined
Apr 27, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
107
Reaction score
58
Location
WisConSin
Vehicle(s)
Subaru 360, Comutacar, Honda Insight, Dodge Ram
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
I know I would, probably to go alongside our hybrid. This is Ford's affordable electric vehicle platform, internally called CE1, created by a very talented team of ex apple and Tesla engineers. It's apparently going to be used for an electric maverick and bronco sport, likely other vehicles as well.

I know 25-30k seems too good to be true, but Ford seems very committed to delivering at this price point.
I would already own a Maverick if it was a PHEV but as a Bev infrastructure is too limited in this region
 

pigsareus

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
Joined
Oct 26, 2021
Threads
1
Messages
1,162
Reaction score
1,307
Location
Farmington Hills, Michigan
Vehicle(s)
Maverick XL Hybrid
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
To be fair, that's exactly what Ford is doing. They're being told "Hey, enough with the six figure EVs, give us affordable EVs and more hybrids" that's exactly what they're doing.
Ford and any other car co shouldn't need to be told that is what people want - it's common sense - but they wanted to rush to the EV party losing Billions every quarter, then trying to make up the R/D with pricey options - a great combination if you want to lose money. As to hybrids - there's at least a 10 year track record of people liking hybrids but they act like this is some new product. If they'd spend more time being realistic and doing some 'customer surveys' they'd do a lot better, instead they jump on and /or lead the bandwagon for EVs and they got exactly what most sensible people would expect - they tanked.
 

Roadrunner11

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
First Name
Carol
Joined
Aug 13, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
69
Reaction score
40
Location
New Mexico
Vehicle(s)
MINI
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
I get BEV doubt. I really do. BEVs have become politicized and tribal. People consume information that confirms their tribal narrative and reject information that doesn't. Information is like food - you become what you consume.

OP, to answer your question, any person with an unbiased, functioning brain will buy a $25,000 BEV small truck, because there's a $7,500 incentive on top of that. Only a blithering idiot would pass on an $18,000 trucklet that doesn't need gas or regular maintenance. Now that's assuming it meets their personal needs. That they have a place to charge. That they don't tow. They don't drive 500 miles a day on a regular basis. They don't live in Alaska. Maybe that they have a second ICE vehicle available. And so on.

Now will that $25,000 BEV ever happen? Well, the new Volvo EX30 is only $35,000. And it will do zero to sixty in 3.5 seconds (I should qualify that's for the more expensive, higher trim) and will do up to 275 miles on a charge. That's an entry level luxury car. A simple economy truck built in Mexico, and given a few more years of BEV cost reductions and production scaling - yea, $30,000 MSRP sounds very doable to me (and to 99% of industry analysts).

If you hate BEVs, think they're a great con job from people wanting to control your life and take away your freedom of choice - why bless your heart. You do you. Live long and prosper. This is America, and you are and will always be free to make your own choices. Our nation is built on respect for each other's opinions, civilized argument, and compromise. Let's hope we don't forget that. And let's all have this BEV discussion again in 5 years and see how it all shakes out.
First of all considering the hybrid is running more than that price at the moment I doubt that Ford would sell a EV Maverick for that amount. Secondly, you speak as though the $7500 incentive is a given. It isn’t, our illustrious government took away 90% of the EV tax credits 2 years ago. Thats why I ditched my plans to buy an EV, and ordered the cheapest hybrid I could find. Now since it’s a Ford it will qualify for a tax credit, but depending on where the minerals are sourced might be only half the $7500. The rules governing the remaining tax credits are pejorative. You can’t use it for an expensive vehicle, you can’t make too much money, the vehicle has to be made in North America, etc, etc, etc. And I’m not against EVs, but since I have an unbiased functioning brain (with a first time tax burden), I got my foreign made EV in 2021, got my $7500 tax credit, making my car about $26k, same price I paid for the non EV version in 2008. It’s a great second car, but like anything it has its limits.
 

Blinky

2.0L EcoBoost
Well-known member
Joined
Nov 25, 2023
Threads
7
Messages
544
Reaction score
732
Location
Alberta, Canada
Vehicle(s)
2024 Maverick, 1991 Toyota Dyna
Engine
2.0L EcoBoost
I would already own a Maverick if it was a PHEV but as a Bev infrastructure is too limited in this region
This is it exactly. I looked at the hybrid but I wanted AWD and towing.
A straight BEV doesn't work well here, we have long cold winters and huge stretches of highway to get, well, anywhere.
Crappy charging network and seemingly no interest in improving it and this past winter we had an emergency alert telling people to stop cooking and not to plug in your electric cars because the grid was crapping out.

Nah, without seeing new power generation in the province (come on nuke plant!!) I have low interest in a BEV.
 
Sponsored

HughdMan

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
First Name
Hugh
Joined
Feb 1, 2022
Threads
5
Messages
163
Reaction score
202
Location
Cherokee, NC
Vehicle(s)
Chevy Volt, Ford Maverick
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
I know I would, probably to go alongside our hybrid. This is Ford's affordable electric vehicle platform, internally called CE1, created by a very talented team of ex apple and Tesla engineers. It's apparently going to be used for an electric maverick and bronco sport, likely other vehicles as well.

I know 25-30k seems too good to be true, but Ford seems very committed to delivering at this price point.
I waited 20 years for Honda to make a Ridgeline Hybrid. I jumped the chance to order my Maveric.

Having sold my Ram and my Tacoma, I was delighted to take delivery of the Hybrid Ridgeline alternative- the Mav. My other vehicle is my 2014 Volt, a Plug-In Hybrid (PHEV). I drive in the mountains and after a 4 mile climb my Volt would recover much of the energy to the battery on the decent on the other side. The Mav feels like it only recovers about 1/2 mile of the energy because the battery it too small for the rest.

I would like a Maveric PHEV myself.
 

40caliber

2.0L EcoBoost
Banned
Banned
First Name
forty
Joined
Jul 15, 2023
Threads
8
Messages
406
Reaction score
391
Location
lost vegas
Vehicle(s)
awd
Engine
2.0L EcoBoost
Clubs
 
Seems pointless to me. Are you running a delivery service or something? Maybe have a daily commute with tools? I really don't get the electric car fad, at least as a new car. 25-30k doesn't seem good to me. Use to see used Nissan Leafs sell for 5k all day long.

Bring your price down about 5 fold and then we're talking. We don't value electric vehicles like you people do.
*5 fold right dude. And comparing to a leaf which were never 5k unless used junk.
 

Grabber Rick

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
First Name
Rick
Joined
Sep 19, 2022
Threads
15
Messages
584
Reaction score
484
Location
Sarver Pa.
Vehicle(s)
07 Focus wagon 06 Silverado 4x4
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
The climate is warming. Polar ice is melting, glaciers are receding, the chemistry of the ocean is becoming dangerously acidic, sea levels are rising. All of this and more are consequences of the greenhouse gases we continue to emit into the atmosphere, where they trap and radiate heat that would otherwise escape into space. Those are facts, not conjectures. Why is it that any attempt to solve this looming catastrophe has to devolve into misinformation and conspiracy theories? EVs are NOT shit cars and the government is NOT offering fake incentives to manipulate anything. (And please spare us the global warming hoax b.s.)
So you think if United States switches to electric it will solve the so called global warming? Meanwhile other countries continue to pollute the world. Other countries have less stringent laws on pollution. That pollution still effects entire world not just over their country. Plus why don't we start with all the unneeded jets flying all over the place. That contributes a major portion to the problem. The people who push these regulations are the biggest offenders.
 

710-oil-614

2.5L Hybrid
Well-known member
First Name
Cal
Joined
Oct 13, 2021
Threads
27
Messages
6,065
Reaction score
11,908
Location
Ohio...but I'd rather be in Boone.
Vehicle(s)
2025 Hybrid AWD Lariat
Engine
2.5L Hybrid
To be fair, that's exactly what Ford is doing. They're being told "Hey, enough with the six figure EVs, give us affordable EVs and more hybrids" that's exactly what they're doing.
You can't keep saying this over and over and it becomes true. Their cheapest EV is a c-hair under $45k currently and they are losing money hand over fist to produce it and the $53k Ford Lightning.

To think they can, AND will, make a $25-30k EV truck profitably when the average price of an F-150 is $60k and they sell about 100 of them PER HOUR and the average price of a vehicle is approaching $50k - Ford is not going to undercut their own market and under price vehicle (that are not profitable).

The Maverick is the cheapest vehicle Ford is ever going to sell moving forward. You will never buy a cheaper vehicle than the current Maverick from Ford. Maybe...MAYBE when considering the time value of money it may approach the price of the Maverick.

But a compact/mid-size EV pick up from Ford will never cost less than $40k.
Sponsored

 
 







Top