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Interesting - I never ever heard of that plan - not that I'd pony up that amount in addition to the extended warranty anyways...

nah 1250 was an absolute no brainer - that is basically one or two repairs with labor and parts over the next 7 years - of course somethings are going to break during that time span. I made the mistake of waiting til year 3 - so i paid about 2200 but still all good with it.

the govt wasn't 'forcing' them to go all EV - they gov't rule was encouraging better overall MPG and lower emissions- it was their choice to go the EV route, they could have ramped up hybrids and throttled down to smaller engines, changed their product mix and worked on improving decreases in...

I think hertz price means you finance thru them - on a 25k truck if they're getting 8-10 percent on financing then they're realizing 2K+ in financing profit annually, if you're paying cash they're not making that profit so they jack up the price up front on cash sales to make up some of the...

I'd be glad if the Fathom does well - if I didn't already have a mav hybrid then I would consider it, in that I don't put that many miles on a vehicle I would possibly be Ok with giving it a try if the cold weather range was reasonable. But you still have to wonder if Ford is going to make any...

Ford knew about the 'pricing inefficiencies' when they started designing and pricing out the product, if they did any real market research before they decided to launch it they should have found that there would be relatively few takers on the product especially due to the pricing models they...

Yeah - people wanted them even less after the EV credit went away, over 4 years they totaled 100K - not exactly stellar numbers anyways, Lightning was still available for purchase this year and did a whopping 5000 in sales. What a disaster - buyers not too thrilled with the pricing, Ford losing...

yeah - and why did they discontinue it? because people were no longer buying it - so maybe that had something to do with it

yeah they also lack women 'adopters' and from we hear all the time it's typically the woman in a household who dictates what kind of vehicle they're buying...and they're not buying EVs

not surprised that EVs tanked...again

no , the plant is maxed out they can't make enough of them

..some idiot behind me the other day going down a secondary road - noticed she was weaving left and right ..this went on for about a mile, at a light I could tell she was on her phone and 'gesturing' in the air with her other hand, and she was always on my tail. Eventually I decided to get the...

they're not just bumping it out? Heck 2k sounds cheap then, maybe 2k is their cost and they're going to bill your ins co twice that

hmm..not quite sure of your example - Roku is actually an Ameican company and yes I would definitely pay (and have paid) a premium on a Roku over a lousy Insignia.

oh just because this limited Lobo audience here isn't complaining doesn't mean that some out there that find out they paid $2500 more last year than a '27 buyer is going to pay aren't at the least 'disappointed'.

must PO the '26 LOBO buyers.....

yep even my XL FWD chirps when I gun it, to say that it's uninspiring is absolutely ridiculous...

Wonder if Ford (and the other car companies) relied on a Gallup poll when they decided to lose 10s of billions of dollars on their failed EV initiative - or did they just 'wing it'?

eh ....(1) you're putting an order in for one and you are going to have to wait months for it? YES; (2)you're at the dealership picking one up that's either the one that you ordered and now it's shown up or you found one on the lot and they're offering 'that one without the hitch' for 100 bucks...

wow...you and me! In MI - I go to discount tire, have them rotated as I should, my orig cr---- Conts got me just under what you have, I picked up a nail and had a leak, took it in and they were pretty much at 4/32nds....guy said he'd fix it but if it got to 3/32nd they would not fix it...