Terrible gas mileage!

[Ecorydr]

The eCVT is so much smoother (based on a recent hyundai rental). Seems weird to have a hybrid that shifts.

Yup.. the Hyundai 6spd autos are not as smooth. But did like the conventional feel to them in through the gears.... maybe even more torque feel as well than my Mav Hybrid test drive.

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[imboden013]

I hope you'll start a hypermileing thread on the new 26 lariat awd and note if it is 4Ktow.
From my experience, there's a price to be paid for awd4K, and likely also for MY25-26 design changes!
YMwillV! Lol,

My wife has a 24 lariat hybrid 21K miles over all mpg is 44.5mpg. I have a 25 lariat hybrid AWD 4k tow has 16k miles over all mpg 40.7mpg. My wife doesn’t drive anymore so all miles were put on by me( we just call the 24 her Maverick). Miles are city/highway 30/70 split. Highway driving is 55-65mph using cruise control at all times. I use regular E10 gasoline.

 

[HeyBales]

Yup. I hypermiled my last '23 Sonata Hybrid always in ECO mode, and never used cruise control. In summer months, would get 58 - 64 mpg as EV would kick in even at 70mph sometimes on the hwy flat runs. Winter (under 50 degrees), best would be 46mpg. Also found that using cruise caused the ICE to kick in to speed up or even slow down (especially on hills) to maintain mph seting.

Cant wait for my ordered '26 Mav Lariat Hybrid to get here.... but, am a little currious how the eCVT performs vs the Hyundai 6spd auto with mpg. Do plan on using same technique for mpg.

Use Slippery mode with CC to have slightly lighter application of Go pedal - perhaps allowing to stay in EV mode longer. Or your manual method.
But, EV basically isn't going to be used above (63 or 67) even if the power requirement for maintaining speed is below the 10 or 15% max.
And while ICE can be brought up going down a hill - there is no fuel, just air-braking if the HVB is topped off already. Can't control that part anyway.
Don't bother annoying everyone behind you going up the hills, by staying in EV and letting the speed drop - bad place to waste the HVB, just power thru it, enjoy the fuller HVB at the top for any flat cruising after it's reached.

 

[Wahjahbvious]

99.9% of MPG problems originate between the steering wheel and the seat. In any vehicle.

 

[Ecorydr]

Use Slippery mode with CC to have slightly lighter application of Go pedal - perhaps allowing to stay in EV mode longer. Or your manual method.
But, EV basically isn't going to be used above (63 or 67) even if the power requirement for maintaining speed is below the 10 or 15% max.
And while ICE can be brought up going down a hill - there is no fuel, just air-braking if the HVB is topped off already. Can't control that part anyway.
Don't bother annoying everyone behind you going up the hills, by staying in EV and letting the speed drop - bad place to waste the HVB, just power thru it, enjoy the fuller HVB at the top for any flat cruising after it's reached.

On down hills, can excelerating a little above speed limit help out at all with keeping it in EV for either flat or hill runs?

 

[Finnster]

My wife has a 24 lariat hybrid 21K miles over all mpg is 44.5mpg. I have a 25 lariat hybrid AWD 4k tow has 16k miles over all mpg 40.7mpg. My wife doesn’t drive anymore so all miles were put on by me( we just call the 24 her Maverick). Miles are city/highway 30/70 split. Highway driving is 55-65mph using cruise control at all times. I use regular E10 gasoline.

I think your 25 numbers may be a close match for my 25EX 4Ktow, which may still be getting broken-in at 4,300 miles. The increase in EV time ON since new has been very noticeable.
No exact numbers, I haven't hand calculated mileage. The 40mpg I've gotten in warmer weather was noted on the trip screens.
BTW, my 40mpg was no accident! I avoid or limit interstates if possible, and I drive 5mph or less over on secondary roads usually. I have occasionally hit 80mph or so to avoid getting swallowed by an approaching pack.

 

[HeyBales]

On down hills, can excelerating a little above speed limit help out at all with keeping it in EV for either flat or hill runs?

You push the Go enough to remove the regen and free coast, you'll go faster then, regarding the engine braking.

As far as max speed it's willing to use the EV, yes downhills is still a coast no fuel, but not really using the EV for power then, that's gravity power.
Above that EV limit speed - you could have a tailwind or slight downhill that require say 5% power to maintain (power meter reading easier on pre-25MY) - but EV will not be used. Faster won't help that, wrong direction.

 

[Timothyd]

This hybrid likes it hot.
Highest MPG will come in the warmest weather you can stand without turning on the A/C.

I peak out at about 87°F to 89°F and windows down.
Then I gotta use the air conditioner.

700 miles per tank, pretty common for me, in warm weather with no A/C. 800 miles per tank feasible when I stay off the interstate.

 

[Squatch]

Hell I came from a 07 ford ranger that got a whopping 18 mpg highway (3.0 Vulcan.) Out of the box this thing so far is getting 34mpg.

Needless to say, Im tickled pink and its only day 1.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Hell I came from a 07 ford ranger that got a whopping 18 mpg highway (3.0 Vulcan.) Out of the box this thing so far is getting 34mpg.

Needless to say, Im tickled pink and its only day 1.

My buddy had an Extended Cab 2wd Ranger with the 3.0 in it man it was slow.

 

[Darryl]

This hybrid likes it hot.
Highest MPG will come in the warmest weather you can stand without turning on the A/C.

I peak out at about 87°F to 89°F and windows down.
Then I gotta use the air conditioner.

700 miles per tank, pretty common for me, in warm weather with no A/C. 800 miles per tank feasible when I stay off the interstate.

The maverick seems to have 3 major mpg theirs. Over 40 mpg (sometimes significantly) at 45 mph or less on suburban roads or moderate stop and go. Mid 30s at 50-60 ish. Low 30-upper 20s at 70+. I noticed that there's not a big drop from 65-80 . The mpg theirs seem to reflect the amount of electric driving. A lot at lower speeds. A little at moderate speeds, and virtually none at true highway speeds.

 

[Finnster]

Use Slippery mode with CC to have slightly lighter application of Go pedal - perhaps allowing to stay in EV mode longer...

Thanks for the Slippery mode tip HeyBales!
The roads were snow-free this morning, so I tried Slippery mode hypermileing for the first time.
I had recently started dabbling in optimizing hybrid mpg since my 25XL 4Ktow has reached 4,000 miles and it now feels quite broken-in.
In the past all of my driving had been in Econ mode.
I drive nearly exclusively in C.C.!
I quickly noticed that forcing the truck into electric mode was much easier when in "Slippery Mode", just a quick(and non-slowing) stab on the brake pedal and then re-set the C.C. once regen or electric mode was entered. Slippery mode's soft and smooth throttle engagement never once caused the truck to immediatly return to hybrid mode. It is simply much easier to make transitions in Slippery versus Econ mode IMO.
I will test more thoroughly with the coming warmer weather, but today I averaged 46.9mpg (according to the display) on my one-way trip home. That number is a full 5 mpg better than I have previously seen on the same trip! This is not in the least conclusive of anything - But I can't seem to get this smile off my face!

 

[HeyBales]

Thanks for the Slippery mode tip HeyBales!
The roads were snow-free this morning, so I tried Slippery mode hypermileing for the first time.
I had recently started dabbling in optimizing hybrid mpg since my 25XL 4Ktow has reached 4,000 miles and it now feels quite broken-in.
In the past all of my driving had been in Econ mode.
I drive nearly exclusively in C.C.!
I quickly noticed that forcing the truck into electric mode was much easier when in "Slippery Mode", just a quick(and non-slowing) stab on the brake pedal and then re-set the C.C. once regen or electric mode was entered. Slippery mode's soft and smooth throttle engagement never once caused the truck to immediatly return to hybrid mode. It is simply much easier to make transitions in Slippery versus Econ mode IMO.
I will test more thoroughly with the coming warmer weather, but today I averaged 46.9mpg (according to the display) on my one-way trip home. That number is a full 5 mpg better than I have previously seen on the same trip! This is not in the least conclusive of anything - But I can't seem to get this smile off my face!

You can also give it that little jab on the Go pedal - which doesn't amount to much if any increase in speed, and during the coast it'll go into EV mode if possible.
For those moments on the flat you are glancing at the blue-outlined gray bar wondering why it's not kicking over. (now, it could be below 40% SOC, or coolant below 120 F too)
That way no messing with CC buttons.
Since Go pedal is softened manually too - that jab should do it.

Ya - warm weather - incredible what that does for mpg.

 

[Yip]

I am two months into owning and daily driving a 2025 Hybrid AWD. All of the reviews, window sticker, and published data indicated that I would be getting 37 mpg combined city/highway. Well, that is my daily routine - about 50% city and 50%highway based on total miles driven. The city may not be bumper to bumper like New York traffic, but there are plenty of stop signs and lights with average speeds around 35 mph.

I am only seeing 32 mpg on my short and long term trip computers readings.

I do not use the Economy mode because the vehicle is pretty slow already. And I am not pounding the pedal constantly to race it around. Pretty normal stuff and not loading the bed or towing (yet).

I have about 1,200 miles on it so far. Thought it might get better over time, but has not. Also, I notice that the 2.5 liter gas engine is on far more than I would have expected. Stays off on very slow starts up to about 10 mph, then the ICE kicks in.

What is going on here? Am I doing something wrong? Any suggestions? Can Ford make any changes to improves this?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Neil

Drive more conservative- ie, don’t floor the gas when accelerating at green lights and don’t brake at the last moment but let the hybrid regenerative braking do its job. I have a little over 7000 miles and averaging 40 mpg for all those miles. I got 45.9 yesterday on my drive home

 

[Master Blaster]

Most get better than the stated mileage, some getting a lot more. If you're not getting at least the stated mileage, then it's probably your aggressive driving and not the truck.

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