Oil Change DIY - any negatives regarding warranty?

[todd92]

There is no need to keep or scan receipts. Just update the Ford website with what you did.

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[Maverick2022XL]

Trust me - no one has had their warranty voided by not showing receipts for multipoint checks.

I do buy my Motorcraft oil & filter from my dealer to document that - but that is not required either. But always a good idea for the DIYer to keep oil/filter receipts.

To add further to this, you are correct because you can't provide a receipt for a multipoint when doing it yourself. You have to follow the owners manual and do the fluid and filter changes as they are scheduled in this case. That is the only way to provide proof and receipts.

https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/warranty/warranties-and-coverage/

and specifically

https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...ot-perform-the-scheduled-vehicle-maintenance/

key point
"Failure to perform scheduled maintenance as specified in your Owner's Manual will invalidate warranty coverage on parts affected by the lack of maintenance." and their engineering standards when applicable like for engine or transmission oil.

You have acceleration problems and you haven't changed the air filter, worst case scenario coverage denied, next best case scenario you pay to have the filter changed then warranty covered if issue not fixed, best depending Ford's policy they overlook it if it is obvious the air filter has no role in the problem.

 

[Gpp]

So let me understand!i need to verify my work with all kind of reciets,miles on vehicles,so on and what ever and the dealer has a kid that knows very little about a car and he,s going to service it for me.
i will take my chances after 50 years of doing it myself and continue to do so.just my opinion

 

[Matso]

If you're concerned enough to ask the forum about this ancient subject in the first place, then maybe you already have your answer. It's also a fairly significant risk considering the reward is maybe a $10-$15 savings. On the logic meter I would say this reads at around a 2.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

Depending the service department yes if there is an issue related to it. I know of one case were a lady got her oil changed at jiffy lube and they didn't tighten the plug. Fast forward, engine had pretty much seized up when all the oil drained out. They told her to go pound sand when they found the loose drain plug. With that said that is an extreme case since most people who know anything about cars should know to do something once the oil light comes on.

Unless you can't afford to at least while under warranty have the dealership do the oil change and multipoint inspections at the same time this way when it comes time to play the pin the blame tail on the donkey it's the dealer that is the ass (double entendre) not you.

I, like so many others on this forum, used the Ford points or whatever they call them ($210 worth) to get my oil changes done at my dealer. You can only spend those dollars at Ford. I think I got 3, and the third one cost me a few dollars added to my points. Even though it cost more at Ford, it's worth more to me to have them do my maintance on my truck with my Granger ESP. If theres a problem, I'm covered!

 

[inline_five]

There is a reason why if you don't use the recommended oil. Few reasons actually but LSPI (low speed pre-ignition) is the main culprit.

Lubricant reference charts
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/resources/quickreferencecharts
2.0L recommended oil is 5w30 or any equivalent that meets Ford's WSS-M2C961-A1 standard.

https://www.motorcraft.com/us/en_us...ae-5w-30-synthetic-blend-motor-oils.html/1000

Key point
"Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Blend Motor Oil is a premium-quality passenger car motor oil recommended by Ford Motor Company and meets all warranty requirements"

Any third party oil even if is classified as ILSAC GF-6 will probably get your warranty claim denied for improper maintenance unless said oil also meets Ford's WSS-M2C961-A1 standard.

With that said there are third party brands that do meet Ford's standards like Valvoline's maxlife oils for example.

There are a bunch of oils from various brands that meets the OPs (and mine) requirements:

Hybrid 2.5L: Oil that meets Ford's WSS-M2C962-A1 spec (LIST and COMMENTS)

 

[markinvictoria]

I'm 82 and have done all the oil changes on my personal vehicles except once. And that once is why I'm still doing them today. I was on vacation heading to the Colorado Rocky Mountains...I knew it was due the oil change. Stopped at a Walmart...told the mechanic which oil and filter I wanted and how many quarts. He argued with me and said I needed one more quart because it had a turbo. I told him I know how many it needed. When I went to pick up the car...first thing I did was check the oil level...one inch above the full mark. Out in the parking lot...he pulled the oil filter, dumped it and started the car...did this several times. If I hadn't checked his work the oil would have turned to foam and blown the engine...probably up in the middle of nowhere.

 

[TheSEARCH]

I am planning to do the first oil change on my 2025 Maverick Hybrid. I will use the recommended oil from Castrol (not Ford) and now hunting down the OEM Motorcraft FL 910-S filter. Is there anyway Ford could screw me regarding my warranty? Should I do it?

NO BUT what I do is get my oil filter from the dealer. About same price I could online. This way dealer has a record of it on computer. They always ask for my name and say fiilter for maverick.

 

[Chops]

Is there anyway Ford could screw me regarding my warranty? Should I do it?

Most folks that get screwed regarding their warranties don’t do their own oil changes

 

[HeyBales]

If you look over the multi-point inspection items - it's mainly about finding issues earlier rather than later.

That could impact other systems perchance - and give them opportunity to deny that other system. Like is coolant strength correct - if allowed to get way off, are you causing seal issues somewhere, leaks, and overheat situation?
But then you would have had to ignore other warnings.

Like checking CV joint boots.
Ok - you notice a leak, take it in - they log it - and do nothing because no effect yet.
It's on their records now. They say come back when vibrations - fine.

But if there was an effect, caught early - they swap it.
But if you wait - either because you didn't do inspection and catch it early or you did, and then you pushed thru the vibration effect because you didn't care - and ruined the suspension components ...
Then I could see them denying the warranty on other things besides the axle replacement - due to no inspection if you can't prove it, or not taking care of a problem.

From some posts long ago in other forums - if you can show up to arbitration (what it would be now), with records that were not clearly created the night before, but rather shows you did all the things needed thru time, with dates and mileage, and receipts when that mattered - you'd have excellent case that indeed you did due diligence.

 

[zen_]

Maybe but what happens when you bring it in for lets say a transmission repair and they say the oil is toast? If you are lucky you'll get out of there with only a bill for an oil flush regardless of whether the transmission needs to be replaced or repaired.

Oil doesn't get toasted overnite If they ignored checking it, before the problem occurs it is on them. If you didn't check it your a word that rhymes with clucked.

With that said I am not saying people shouldn't do their own maintenance or that they are not able to do it better or more thorough just that if you paid for something why would undermine your ability to use it regardless of how minimal that would be. As someone who taught self defense once told me the best way to not to get mugged in a dark alleyway at 4 in the morning is not go in dark alleyways at 4 in the morning unless you had a reason to be there. That's my story and i am sticking to it.

The transmission one is a great example because most manufacturers have deleted the dipstick to even check it, and don't call for a specific service interval because it's "sealed for life". By life that means it will likely get to the end of the warranty period without a catastrophic failure, but usually not a lot past 100K-150K.

Puts vehicle owners in a predicament with things like those awful Jatco CVTs Nissan used for years that would 100% fail before or shortly after the warranty if you didn't change the fluid to buy some more life, but if you did, you may have voided the warranty doing a service not called for.

 

[Chops]

If my CV axles fail during warranty & Ford rejects my claim saying “sorry - you did not have a Ford Tech do several multi point inspections”- I will apply “due diligence” to their keester!

Just kidding & Ford would never try that denial

 

[HeyBales]

If my CV axles fail during warranty & Ford rejects my claim saying “sorry - you did not have a Ford Tech do several multi point inspections”- I will apply “due diligence” to their keester!

Just kidding & Ford would never try that denial

Not now!

But I think that's a good example of we likely go too early for them to agree it's bad enough yet.
Gotta have easily seen issue for the tech to agree - unless it's friendly shop doing things right, because they know what's going to happen eventually.

Batteries on hybrids - some places swap you out early it seems, some seem to need that printout for sure saying below warranty level.
Of course if bringing in on 1st battery saver light off early or DSM alert - ya too early.

But if you wait too long and never notice due to no inspections on some items - I could see them using that to get out of warranty work.

 

[Maverick2022XL]

I, like so many others on this forum, used the Ford points or whatever they call them ($210 worth) to get my oil changes done at my dealer. You can only spend those dollars at Ford. I think I got 3, and the third one cost me a few dollars added to my points. Even though it cost more at Ford, it's worth more to me to have them do my maintance on my truck with my Granger ESP. If theres a problem, I'm covered!

Yep same here. First year of warranty service including tire rotations was on the house.

 

[Maverick2022XL]

If my CV axles fail during warranty & Ford rejects my claim saying “sorry - you did not have a Ford Tech do several multi point inspections”- I will apply “due diligence” to their keester!

Just kidding & Ford would never try that denial

Only if greasing them was on the service schedule which is not but inspecting the suspension system is as far as general maintenance is. If you don't have your multipoint inspections on file then maybe if not Ford's policy the dealer themselves.

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