New 2024 Ranger is definitely an option

[OrangeBlue]

With 5 speed manual.

Show me a single cab long bed 3.3l V6 hybrid and we'll talk.

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[OrangeBlue]

First off, the current Ranger XLT Supercrew is about $5k more than the Maverick XLT Supercrew apples to apples. Not $13k.
There may be a hybrid.
New generation truck, so current reviews are not super relevant.

It's an option for at least a few people.

Higher cost ($27K to $40k), low MPG (20), poor reviews (but seem to be getting better), good towing, almost too big for my garage. Not for me; but go for it, if it floats your boat. LOL

 

[OrangeBlue]

MSRP is fine.

Do you have a list now, Tim?

We are doing MSRP at this time. We may do better but we will not go below invoice price.

 

[Stealth Raccoon]

With 5 speed manual.

You know, since it’ll be based on the Bronco platform, the manual transmission is a possibility!

 

[TheQuixotic1]

My 2013 C-Max is currently just under 147k miles. If I don't get a build date for my Ecoboost Maverick soon I'm staring down the barrel of needing new breaks, rotors, shocks, struts, and fluids flushed; all of which doesn't impact the resale value I'd get if I did it or passed that burden on to the next owner. Suddenly waiting for my Maverick becomes a few thousand dollars more expensive.

That 2023 Ranger that's sitting on the lot suddenly is looking more attractive.

 

[Old Ranchero]

You know, since it’ll be based on the Bronco platform, the manual transmission is a possibility!

Not likely. I'm expecting just same existing combination of 2.3L + 10 spd automatic as only choice for N/A through 2029 when product roadmap has cryptic reference to undefined EV.

 

[snowcatxx87]

With 5 speed manual.

How would a hybrid work with a manual?

 

[Tiger Dude]

First off, the current Ranger XLT Supercrew is about $5k more than the Maverick XLT Supercrew apples to apples. Not $13k.
There may be a hybrid.
New generation truck, so current reviews are not super relevant.

It's an option for at least a few people.

2023 Mav XL Supercrew $22595
2023 Ranger XL Supercrew $29585
2023 Ranger XL Supercab $27400

 

[eRock92]

The Maverick doesn't need a ladder frame and 7k is not out of the question. It's only 3k more than current. The Maverick already has the HP and torque to do it. Upgrade to a beefier version of the same transmission (which already exists) and add a little more cooling and it could do it just fine. The Jeep Cherokee can do it with a unibody just fine. In the 1990s people would have said an F150 will never be able to tow 14k either.

I doubt the Mav will get 7k towing. The Explorer with the V6 tops out at 5,600 lbs. Maybe the 4k bumps to 5k, but that's about it.

 

[Tiger Dude]

I doubt the Mav will get 7k towing. The Explorer with the V6 tops out at 5,600 lbs. Maybe the 4k bumps to 5k, but that's about it.

Explorers are no longer based on the Ranger, they are unibody now. This allowed them to compete with Pilots & Highlanders; the previous body-on-frame Explorers were hopelessly outclassed.

 

[LM42]

Explorers are no longer based on the Ranger, they are unibody now. This allowed them to compete with Pilots & Highlanders; the previous body-on-frame Explorers were hopelessly outclassed.

Isn't this exactly the opposite of reality? When I was with Lincoln through 2019 the Explorer was unibody front drive platform. The new Explorer is back to body on frame and rear drive platform.

 

[Tiger Dude]

Isn't this exactly the opposite of reality? When I was with Lincoln through 2019 the Explorer was unibody front drive platform. The new Explorer is back to body on frame and rear drive platform.

Pretty sure it's unibody rear drive

 

[LM42]

Pretty sure it's unibody rear drive

That is not a thing. Rear drive is always body on frame.

 

[OrangeBlue]

I'm pretty sure a few rear drive vehicles are unibody. At least a couple.

That is not a thing. Rear drive is always body on frame.

 

[LM42]

I'm pretty sure a few rear drive vehicles are unibody. At least a couple.

I am sure you are right. But I am struggling to remember what. I think Ford had an old car that was based on a Euro version that was rear drive and maybe unibody. But I can't think of many others. But I had to check myself on the Explorer. The new one is RWD but DID retain unibody construction. It is not body on frame.

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