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Wonder what it ends at. Does everyone still use the 35% rule if not financing? If so, that means you should have a minimum income of $163K to entertain a base version. Even going by household, which is combined income, that eliminates 94% of the US population. With cars getting ever more expensive, I have to wonder who is buying them all?
It's debt. 85% of new cars are financed. The average car payment in the US is now $716 with the average auto loan at 70 months.
You can afford anything if you stretch your payments out 8 years
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But can you really afford it?
 

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It's debt. 85% of new cars are financed. The average car payment in the US is now $716 with the average auto loan at 70 months.
You can afford anything if you stretch your payments out 8 years
Considering median home price vs median salary is at the highest disparity they have ever been at in US history (measured since WWII), it makes sense the same would be true for median car price vs median salary.

It's almost like Millenials and Gen Z'ers (and whomever comes next) have been screwed because of macroeconomic & political trends and not because of Starbucks & avocado toast.
 

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I got to look at a new Ranger Raptor at the plaint last night. Great looking truck and it's very tempting but I still think the Maverick is the better truck for my needs. The prices on the Rangers are also getting too high!
 
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The rear seat does fold down more than I originally thought it did, but it does not fold down flat. I know because I just went outside and tried. I also agree that the 60/40 split would be preferred with the underseat storage. I don't have a need for car seats, but still helpful when you have stuff sitting on the seat.
Agreed. Nope, not completely flat, but I haven't found that to be a big problem yet. I cart around a kid package more than anything else back there, and the 60/40 split would be really helpful for her stuff.
 

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thanks dad!
Why the question mark?

$34,160 is the base price for a 2WD truck not a 4WD truck.

You stated earlier that 34K was hard to beat for a 4WD truck.
 

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Why the question mark?

$34,160 is the base price for a 2WD truck not a 4WD truck.
I didn’t l

You stated earlier that 34K was hard to beat for a 4WD truck.
??????? Didn’t mean put ???? It was joke lol
 

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Sucks that the Ranger is only a 5 foot bed now. Eliminated the Super cab, so crew cab is the only cab going forward on the ranger. $5,265 more for a base 2024 over a base 2023. But it is much nicer, and the fact that they borrowed the front end styling is nice. I hated the old Rangers looks. Good thing they are NOT offering a hybrid now.
They did not "Eliminate" the Super Cab, they just chose not to offer it in North America. It's still available in other markets.
 
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They did not "Eliminate" the Super Cab, they just chose not to offer it in North America. It's still available in other markets.
Yes, Eliminating it as an available configuration. It's not rocket science.
 

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I think the Tacoma is half the truck the new Ranger will be in terms of engine performance and ride.
Yet Year In and Year Out, buyers prefer the Tacoma to all other offerings on the market. Toyota must be doing something right, and the new Tacoma is just around the corner.

The King remains the King until Dethroned.
 

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Yet Year In and Year Out, buyers prefer the Tacoma to all other offerings on the market. Toyota must be doing something right, and the new Tacoma is just around the corner.

The King remains the King until Dethroned.
That's true . . . but consensus also put Hitler into power, so . . .
 
 




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