Hybrid AWD technology?

[Automate]

Then there's just getting the new vehicle to market in time, then introduce major features in later model refreshes, so people who already own one will trade for a newer model to get those features.

I'm guessing the next refresh will get a plugin hybrid.

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[icegradner]

The trick engineering is likely in eCVT. Questions such as how, when, and how much power gets transferred to the rear. My curiosity is regarding the center diff. This is a significant addition to the tranny. When I had a Subaru, the mechanical vs electronic controls and specs made the AWD very different for the automatic tranny vs the manual.

Since the eCVT is nothing like a belt and pully CVT from your Subaru, it's a totally different setup. I believe the AWD Ford Escape Hybrid uses the type of system Ford will be putting in the Maverick, just a beefier unit for the Maverick.

 

[jc888888888]

Did Ford upgrade the transmission in the new model.
Does it have a separate electric motor for rear wheels?
How is the power shifted to rear wheels?
Don't know where to find it..

Here you go: Rear differential unit:

The RDU is the rear differential unit. IT transfers the energy from the driveshaft to the rear tires based on throttle input and traction. It has a series of clutches that handle this.
--Alex Vecerkovic Bozard Ford Lincoln

 

[jc888888888]

Since the eCVT is nothing like a belt and pully CVT from your Subaru, it's a totally different setup. I believe the AWD Ford Escape Hybrid uses the type of system Ford will be putting in the Maverick, just a beefier unit for the Maverick.

Yes the eCVT has been upgraded. Not exactly sure how the AWD works though.

The RDU is the rear differential unit. IT transfers the energy from the driveshaft to the rear tires based on throttle input and traction. It has a series of clutches that handle this.
--Alex Vecerkovic Bozard Ford Lincoln

 

[Onceforall]

The RDU is the rear differential unit. IT transfers the energy from the driveshaft to the rear tires based on throttle input and traction. It has a series of clutches that handle this.
--Alex Vecerkovic Bozard Ford Lincoln

Are you getting this from a dealer sales guy?

Clutches inside the unit mean a lot more frequent changes...possibly more wear on the eCVT too since the fluid is more dirty on the average.

It would be amazing tech if Ford figured out how to do this without clutches.

 

[inline_five]

Towing ~ 1500 lbs, Interstate Speeds
108°F day
Undulating hills between 1000' ASL to about 5000' ASL

No problems; no warnings, no derating of the power. I've not yet found the upper temperature when the battery starts to decrease output. That was my only (pleasant) surprise. I had to move an OHV this day.

Do you know of any guidance for normal operating temps for the transmission, coil and inverter temps? Just wondering how much higher those are above spec. Although at first glance the trans temp seems ok, but coil temp might be a little elevated?

Would also be interesting to hook up another transmission cooler and see if it drops temps.

Typically the enemy of transmissions is heat. If doing this regularly you could also change fluid more often (although if doing it regularly probably better to get a 4k equipped vehicle).

I‘m wondering as I’m looking to rent a 2500 lb travel trailer.

 

[jc888888888]

Are you getting this from a dealer sales guy?

Clutches inside the unit mean a lot more frequent changes...possibly more wear on the eCVT too since the fluid is more dirty on the average.

It would be amazing tech if Ford figured out how to do this without clutches.

No I got it from the tech

 

[Aherpa]

It appears to be a driveshaft to the rear axle . . . based on the picture from Ford's website.

 

[Greendesert]

Yep. I was also looking at that.

 

[The Real Maverick]

Do you know of any guidance for normal operating temps for the transmission, coil and inverter temps? Just wondering how much higher those are above spec. Although at first glance the trans temp seems ok, but coil temp might be a little elevated?

Would also be interesting to hook up another transmission cooler and see if it drops temps.

Typically the enemy of transmissions is heat. If doing this regularly you could also change fluid more often (although if doing it regularly probably better to get a 4k equipped vehicle).

I‘m wondering as I’m looking to rent a 2500 lb travel trailer.

Maybe you will be surprised to hear:
I called Dell tech support recently.
I was worried my laptop was overheating.
Dell said "normal" CPU chip surface temperature is 212°F. (100°C)

With 480 VAC industrial motors, 310°F (155°C) is considered acceptable.

Acceptable coil temperatures for the Maverick are about the same as other industrial motors. I read in an Escape Hybrid Manual years ago, they get a light at 265°F and a warning and power reduction at 285°F. I forget what evokes a mandatory shut down. But for self-preservation it will shut down shy of doing permanent harm.

I don't know the precise limits for the Maverick, but it's a robust system.

 

[m5040]

The generator, which is a part of the "transmission" did get warm in mine towing not quite 4k up 6% on a hot day.

What was the label of the component you noticed at 6% rise on? Scan gauge gives you a lot to watch. I never noticed much of a difference. I don't want to miss the critical category to monitor.

 

[Gonzo chris]

2025 FWD hybrid can still only be configured for 2k towing, just like the 2022-2024 FWD hybrid. If you pick the 4k towing package, the configurator forces you to ugrade to AWD (+$2,200), Copilot 360 ($795) and then the 4k tow package ($795) gives you a larger radiator, larger transmission cooler, upgraded engine cooling fan and 3.81 final drive ratio gearing. So yeah, $3,790 in upgraders later, the hybrid Maverick can tow 4k.

Weren't all those things necessary on the EB to tow 4k? Could the fwd version do it?

 

[Gonzo chris]

Are you getting this from a dealer sales guy?

Clutches inside the unit mean a lot more frequent changes...possibly more wear on the eCVT too since the fluid is more dirty on the average.

It would be amazing tech if Ford figured out how to do this without clutches.

It's like n reference to the rear axle not the ECVT

 

[Onceforall]

It's like n reference to the rear axle not the ECVT

While those axles exist for specific purposes of traction control, they do not control or balance front to rear power application. Very unlikely that Ford would put a limited slip type axle in the rear hybrid AWD. Doing so would have been well publicized at this point.

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