Door handle area panel wavy (poor quality ?)

[commadorebob]

I can see what you are saying. But I don't think it makes much difference. Given that metal expands and contracts based on the weather, you will be hard pressed to find any perfectly straight sheets.

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[23grayXLT84]

Of the 1000's of posts I have read on this forum, this is the most bizarre. And that's saying a lot.

Honestly for me it stems from years of driving / owning non ford products. Every car will have flaws which is understandable but at some point no matter the price point some flaws especially at the levels I am seeing scream poor quality. Add the popping tail light issue in 2nd or almost 3rd year of production ??? That should have been fixed many months ago (mine is a July).

Everyone has different opinions of quality and just because you pay a "cheap" price does not mean you should get a poor quality product.

 

[Steve Urquell]

Honestly for me it stems from years of driving / owning non ford products. Every car will have flaws which is understandable but at some point no matter the price point some flaws especially at the levels I am seeing scream poor quality. Add the popping tail light issue in 2nd or almost 3rd year of production ??? That should have been fixed many months ago (mine is a July).

Everyone has different opinions of quality and just because you pay a "cheap" price does not mean you should get a poor quality product.

Best just to go ahead and sell it now. Buy something better.

 

[Mav2112]

If you look/inspect the rest of the truck you will find more waves and imperfections everywhere. Yes, around the door handles, but also at the bottom of the doors, bottom of tailgate, around the door windows, hood, the roof has identical waves/dents on each side, the top of the bed rail that runs across the bottom of the rear window is really noticeable, etc, etc.

If you have OCD and really go over every inch of this truck you will find more and more. You have to look at the paint/panels at the right angle, in the right lighting conditions but they are there. The darker colors show it more pronounced.

The issue here is that some people notice things like this and others don't or dont care if they do. These "imperfections" are part of the build process at the factory and all Mavericks, and most if not all other new trucks, have them. I compared my new Maverick with less than 100 miles to other new Mavericks at the dealer and they all had the same wavy ness and imperfections in the same spots. Those who say that their Maverick does not have them, LOL! They all do.

If you obsess about your new truck, you will also notice crearcoat scratches, scuffs, and all kinds of other imperfections on the exterior and in the interior.

The Jeep Wrangler is pretty bad. Big waves in the door panels that are very noticeable, around the door hinges, door handles, etc. Ask me how I know.

Thanks for confirming the waves and dimples on the top of the bed rail below the rear window; thats one area from the side I really noticed one day and wondered if others had experienced the same haha

 

[Tim d]

Long time lurker, but finally got my truck 2 weeks ago after about a 10 month wait. Life's been busy and haven't driven / or looked at it much but finally got around to it (didn't notice at delivery even though should have been obvious as angles / lighting were similar)

Anyone notice a lot of panel wavy ness around all 4 door handles ? My right rear is the worst and you really need to catch good angle and lighting to notice it. Now that I saw it, I can't unsee it.

Yeah yeah, it's a "cheap" truck but this is such a basic item that I am shocked it's this bad. Wife's van, very very slight (not ford)...

Anyways, this along with no 60/40 split rear bench and "ok" screen quality are only 3 things that could use improvement.

How is your panel ? You need to look and move to really catch it. First glance you will likely think it's fine.

Pics cant catch it, check out the video.

Sorry,don't see what your talking about?

 

[Old Man]

Don't see anything. My Bentley doesn't have any ripples either.

 

[Red Ryder]

I genuinely can't tell what you're referring to.

The photo below shows an exaggerated view of what these disruptions are and look like.
The flange area of this drawn part is in the cut-off (scrap) area and these "fingers" are clearly visible. Obviously, you don't want these in a finished part. They normally show up in around areas where the geometry changes (e.g holes, depressions, protrusions and so forth) which is why they might show up around a handle area of a vehicle. Like I said, these are very pronounced:

When these occur on a finished part, it is typically due to a die or lubricant issue within the draw-press operation.

 

[Red Ryder]

As for all of the comments regarding it being a cheap vehicle, the Japanese established themselves in the US market many decades ago with humble ecoboxes that had high fit and finish and reliability at low cost.

 

[23grayXLT84]

The photo below shows an exaggerated view of what these disruptions are and look like.
The flange area of this drawn part is in the cut-off (scrap) area and these "fingers" are clearly visible. Obviously, you don't want these in a finished part. They normally show up in around areas where the geometry changes (e.g holes, depressions, protrusions and so forth) which is why they might show up around a handle area of a vehicle. Like I said, these are very pronounced:

When these occur on a finished part, it is typically due to a die or lubricant issue within the draw-press operation.

Yup, this has nothing to do with it being a cheap truck. It's simply lack of process control at ford. I bet some are better than others and unfortunately some get the short end of the stick.

I think many here are shocked I'm pointing out the obvious. To some this is normal because they haven't experienced quality before.

 

[Shawn]

OP, yes, I see them. Annoys me too. I have always walked around a new car before I sign the paperwork just to look for these type of things, I pretty much only buy black cars so you have to be extra careful. Our Mav has some slight waviness by the handle part which is from the stamping as others have mentioned. I have seen a couple Mavs from 22 model year with terrible waviness, I think this is in the steel, not from the draw of stamping, I worked in auto and steel , coils of metal are not perfectly flat, they call the waviness steel "shape" and when they blank out the steel they try to correct the shape with leveling rollers. Keep in mind its wound in a big coil like a giant roll of toilet paper so you have a curvature that must be flattened which is part science and part operator skill in running the equipment. This curvature is called "coil set" I was okay with the Mav that Igot and probably would have passed on the sale if not. I traded in a Silverado and it had some waviness too, most noticeable when you saw the reflection of the truck in the side view mirrors but not really noticeable looking at the truck, like you said, must look at it just right. The steel industry had specifications for what is acceptable and it is a combination of height of the wave and distance between the waves. I do not know what Ford deems acceptable but certainly the Mav has some issues here.

 

[K5Blazer]

Yup, this has nothing to do with it being a cheap truck. It's simply lack of process control at ford. I bet some are better than others and unfortunately some get the short end of the stick.

I think many here are shocked I'm pointing out the obvious. To some this is normal because they haven't experienced quality before.

You should probably sell your Maverick.
This will bother you the whole time you own it.

Its just not worth it.

 

[snowcatxx87]

Some people will see it, some won't. Some have it and can't even see it.

I used to do some PDR repair on the side back in the day and ever since my training from my buddy, I can't unsee so much waviness, dings, dents, and such on any and all vehicles haha.

Their is waviness from stamping and door handles is normal for this vehicle - my other hondas/acuras were a bit better, but it is what it is OP and enjoy the truck.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

It really depends on how you define quality. Some look at quality as

As for all of the comments regarding it being a cheap vehicle, the Japanese established themselves in the US market many decades ago with humble ecoboxes that had high fit and finish and reliability at low cost.

The maverick literally has better quality/reliablity ratings than the Toyota Tacoma. The hybrid is on multiple lists as being one of the most reliable hybrids you can buy, up there with the Toyota Corolla.

By comparison, a solid half of the terrible ownership experiences we've had have been Honda vehicles. Literally lasting 36 hours before the engine blew for one. Everything is failing on my friend's civic, the engine, transmission, interior, underbody, upper body, electronics, there's issues with all of it. Not to mention Honda has class action lawsuits over basically every automatic transmission it's made in the last 20 years, and the 1.5 Honda motor is considered to be one of the least reliable motors on the market.

Don't even get me started on all the engine issues new Toyotas are having currently, or the virtually guaranteed issues Nissan CVT owners have. Or all the head gasket issues with Subarus that make their motors some of the worst on the market.

I know you've had a bad experience, and I'm sorry for that. But the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of maverick owners haven't had any issues, and that the hybrid system in the maverick is solid. It's literally a 500k mile powertrain.

 

[BoskoPColtrane]

Give me a break. It's sheet metal....
Let me get this straight, you bought it for value ? It sure sounds like your are fine with it breaking down (you know quality right ? )

How about the loose taillight i noticed shortly after this ? It seems like the brackets that hold clips in place are misaligned (weld) which results in the housing clashing with the outer panel....that value to you too ?


Let's stop pretending like these basic issues are acceptable. I have less than 200 miles....

He’s just giving his opinion. No need to get so upset.

 

[Mavboy2023]

I have a Alto Blue no waves

I have Alto Blue too...but have more important things in life to worry about.

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