Any Hybrid owners regret not opting for AWD/Ecoboost

[BearyArizona]

When I look down at a 15 mile trip and see that I averaged 60mpg... nope, I am VERY content haha

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[Zed79]

I live in Michigan and have been through 2 winters with the Hybrid. No regrets. The truck handles great in the snow and icy conditions. I drive sometimes 1000 miles a month for work and save over 200 dollars a month in gas (former car, 2 door economy). I have traveled 3 times to the mountains in Kentuky and the truck handles great on hills and dirt roads.

Dude don't lie at 25 MPG and 4 bucks a gallon a 1000 miles is $160.00 you cant save $200 on 1000 miles of use. 1000/25 =40 gallons 40x 4.00= 160.00. math adding up.

 

[icegradner]

Dude don't lie at 25 MPG and 4 bucks a gallon a 1000 miles is $160.00 you cant save $200 on 1000 miles of use. 1000/25 =40 gallons 40x 4.00= 160.00. math adding up.

Just keep in mind, the price you pay where you are isn't the same price everyone pays.

 

[Zed79]

Just keep in mind, the price you pay where you are isn't the same price everyone pays.

No one is paying $10 a gallon that you would have to pay to make the math add up.
in MI per AAA $3.976 highest recorded average price that is the cap for the state ever....

MaverickMom

First Name Amy Joined Oct 20, 2022 Location Michigan

 

[shadow76]

A buddy has an EB, AWD and 4k tow. The hybrid MPG is always double and at times triple his mileage. Fuel cost was a driver for the hybrid purchase. If a greater load or towing capacity is needed, the F150 is used.

 

[cyberdog]

No one is paying $10 a gallon that you would have to pay to make the math add up.
in MI per AAA $3.976 highest recorded average price that is the cap for the state ever....

MaverickMom

First Name Amy Joined Oct 20, 2022 Location Michigan

Why $10? - I've missed something, are you looking to make-up the now increased cost of the Hybrid over the EB?

Keep in mind many of us purchased our vehicles when the Hybrid was the base engine (no $1500 upcharge), and even though not delivered as a '22 model, were price-protected by private offer on those orders, making the Hybrid a win-win. It was cheaper to begin with, and we save nearly 50% at the pump at every fill-up. The typical EB owners will likely average ~26 day-in/day-out in 'normal' driving. (Not everybody drives 80% or more highway to see 30+). It's more likely to have a lot of stop-n-go driving, which is 80% of my driving, making 50-52 mpg the more economical choice. That's actually my average on a full fuel run or tank of gas.

I've been also biking to work 1-2 days a week in nice weather (e-bike), and honestly can't remember the last time I bought gas! I *think* it was in late April, but know I need to remember to do so, as we'll likely take Blu on our anniversary getaway this weekend. Being 170 miles to empty doesn't work if you're driving 200 miles or so.

 

[CX430-4ME]

Sure wish Ford could have put a naturally asperated V6 engine in the Maverick. The old 3.0L Duratec would have been SWEET! Had that engine in a 2011 Escape that I had prior to buying my Maverick and it was QUICK! No way my 2.0L ecoboost Maverick could have hung with it. Funny thing, the 3.0L V6 in the FWD Escape got the exact same fuel economy as my 2.0L FWD Maverick. 26MPG combined. The 3.0L was a VERY durable engnine as well, with 246k miles when it was wrecked and no issues at all. I will be very surprised, heck, down right shocked if the 2.0L in my Maverick last anywhere close to 200k miles. I do change the oil in my vehicles every 3k miles with Mobil One Full Synthetic so I'm sure that helps. Just wish the EPA would allow manufactures to use more proven, reliable, simplistic, and less stressed engines like they once did. Not a fan of turbos since they run hot, stress the engine, cook seals and gaskets and bake the oil. Heat and stress is an engines enemy. I realize the Hybrid engine is NA but I am not a fan of all the additional tech, batteries, sensors, coolers, motors, harnesses, actuators, etc. that are found on a Hybrid. Just sounds like a recipe for failure long term and EXPENSIVE. If i had bought my Maverick with the intensions to sell it within 6 years I would have probably bought a Hybrid. I like to keep my vehicles until the wheels fall off so the ICE 2.0 option just sounded like it had more potential to last longer and be less expensive to keep on the road. Who knows, the Hybrid may out last the EB?

I will say, Ford has made some very good engines throughout the years but not so sure about the ones they build now. Turbo charging, direct injection, variable cam timing, cylinder deactivation, wet belt driven oil pumps, interal water pumps, auto-start-stop, plastic oil pans and other parts, and so on all sound like weapons designed to kill an engine well before it's prime. I know it's not Ford's fault, they are just doing what they are forced to do. Future of ICE vehicles is not a bright one, the government has fixed it where manufactures can't build one worth having anymore. I sure hope I'm wrong about the life expectancy of my 2.0L EB since $30k is a lot to spend on something you might not be able to get 10yrs+ or 200k miles out of. Compaired to every other vehicle on the market, and for the money, the 2.0L Maverick on paper seemed ot have the best potintial to be reliable long term. With that said, buying anything new is certainly a BIG gamble now.

 

[Jonny44]

Nope. It's handled 2 Minnesota winters without any problems, with 51k on the original Continentals. They're not the best tires for snow and ice, but I haven't had any issues. Tires are now at 4/32" and being replaced this Fall with Falken Aklimate tires. The truck tows all of my toys and has only been down once for a 12v battery replacement. It replaced my daily-driven F150 and uses less than 1/3 the fuel (100+ mile daily commute) and saves me around $500 a month in gas.

 

[Zed79]

Why $10? - I've missed something, are you looking to make-up the now increased cost of the Hybrid over the EB?

Keep in mind many of us purchased our vehicles when the Hybrid was the base engine (no $1500 upcharge), and even though not delivered as a '22 model, were price-protected by private offer on those orders, making the Hybrid a win-win. It was cheaper to begin with, and we save nearly 50% at the pump at every fill-up. The typical EB owners will likely average ~26 day-in/day-out in 'normal' driving. (Not everybody drives 80% or more highway to see 30+). It's more likely to have a lot of stop-n-go driving, which is 80% of my driving, making 50-52 mpg the more economical choice. That's actually my average on a full fuel run or tank of gas.

I've been also biking to work 1-2 days a week in nice weather (e-bike), and honestly can't remember the last time I bought gas! I *think* it was in late April, but know I need to remember to do so, as we'll likely take Blu on our anniversary getaway this weekend. Being 170 miles to empty doesn't work if you're driving 200 miles or so.

Great save the money don't lie about. Same as saying you have a 10 sec 1/4 in EB or putting 400 hp to the wheels stock tuned all BS and make what ever you say sound like BS. No one in the US is saving $200 on 1000 miles a month moving from a subcompact or an Ecoboost. like these pics with 10 miles at 79.9mpg its all misleading BS.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

You know the "CVT" in the Maverick hybrid is really an "eCVT" or electric motor that splits/pairs engine power to the HV battery or pairs it with another electric motor (MG2) to power the hybrid?

Yeah, from a reliability standpoint at least going from the e-cvt to the 8 speed is a bit like jumping from an air conditioned room into a fire pit.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Sure wish Ford could have put a naturally asperated V6 engine in the Maverick. The old 3.0L Duratec would have been SWEET! Had that engine in a 2011 Escape that I had prior to buying my Maverick and it was QUICK! No way my 2.0L ecoboost Maverick could have hung with it. Funny thing, the 3.0L V6 in the FWD Escape got the exact same fuel economy as my 2.0L FWD Maverick. 26MPG combined. The 3.0L was a VERY durable engnine as well, with 246k miles when it was wrecked and no issues at all. I will be very surprised, heck, down right shocked if the 2.0L in my Maverick last anywhere close to 200k miles. I do change the oil in my vehicles every 3k miles with Mobil One Full Synthetic so I'm sure that helps. Just wish the EPA would allow manufactures to use more proven, reliable, simplistic, and less stressed engines like they once did. Not a fan of turbos since they run hot, stress the engine, cook seals and gaskets and bake the oil. Heat and stress is an engines enemy. I realize the Hybrid engine is NA but I am not a fan of all the additional tech, batteries, sensors, coolers, motors, harnesses, actuators, etc. that are found on a Hybrid. Just sounds like a recipe for failure long term and EXPENSIVE. If i had bought my Maverick with the intensions to sell it within 6 years I would have probably bought a Hybrid. I like to keep my vehicles until the wheels fall off so the ICE 2.0 option just sounded like it had more potential to last longer and be less expensive to keep on the road. Who knows, the Hybrid may out last the EB?

I will say, Ford has made some very good engines throughout the years but not so sure about the ones they build now. Turbo charging, direct injection, variable cam timing, cylinder deactivation, wet belt driven oil pumps, interal water pumps, auto-start-stop, plastic oil pans and other parts, and so on all sound like weapons designed to kill an engine well before it's prime. I know it's not Ford's fault, they are just doing what they are forced to do. Future of ICE vehicles is not a bright one, the government has fixed it where manufactures can't build one worth having anymore. I sure hope I'm wrong about the life expectancy of my 2.0L EB since $30k is a lot to spend on something you might not be able to get 10yrs+ or 200k miles out of. Compaired to every other vehicle on the market, and for the money, the 2.0L Maverick on paper seemed ot have the best potintial to be reliable long term. With that said, buying anything new is certainly a BIG gamble now.

Most will agree the 2.5 hybrid system Ford uses is even more reliable than the 3.0. this setup has been around about as long as the dinosaurs. The 2.5 is one of the most reliable duratec motors as is, and is even more understressed in hybrid form. There really isn't such a bad thing as a bad duratec motor, they're all very reliable. Love the 3.5 in our explorer.

 

[Mr.EdzBluMav]

Just wondering if any of you hybrid owners wish you had opted for AWD with the Ecoboost ? Imagine this may be influenced on weather severity in your area. Heard mixed reviews from the owners in my area in Michigan.
Thanks

My Lariat hybrid was delivered in March, so far, excellent mileage & my wife likes it better than her new Cosair! It will be my 1st time without an AWD or FWD.

 

[whitero]

I live in Michigan and have been through 2 winters with the Hybrid. No regrets. The truck handles great in the snow and icy conditions. I drive sometimes 1000 miles a month for work and save over 200 dollars a month in gas (former car, 2 door economy). I have traveled 3 times to the mountains in Kentuky and the truck handles great on hills and dirt roads.

Thanks I live in the Royal Oak area not backroads by any means but wondered about snow and ice. Thank you for the info I appreciate it.

 

[jpdurr]

My Regret is that Ford didn't offer an AWD Hybrid, or else I would have bought it.

Maybe they'll come out with one, but it's too late for me.

 

[Stradbash]

It's not as though we had much snow and ice in SE Michigan last winter...
Winter tires make a huge difference, and that's what I'll put on mine, at least by the second winter. My last two vehicles have been AWD.

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