2025 Maverick Hybrid HF55 Transaxle Info (nice write up)

[DevoMcDev0]

But HP remains the same. Right?

Increased torque may not equate to more HP.

It's still running an extra output shaft, which increases drag on the entire system, as does driving another axle.

Maintaining mileage is likely by generating more electricity, hence my thought it's going to increase performance by generating more electricity, to offset the new power requirements.

E motors make torque, not horsepower.

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[The Real Maverick]

Agree with Devo.

Also, now, as before Ford publishes the motors theoretical "capability" not what is actually pushed to the wheels.

Case example:

The HV battery pack can theoretically hold 1.1 kWh of power. But due to software controls only 0.45 kWh can be put to the wheels between recharge cycles. (2022-2024. 2025 TBD)

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Going by long term memory here...
The HF45 the electric motors were made smaller than the HF35 due to magnet shortages the rotors were made smaller. The magnets shape was modified to improve stability at high rpm. The windings were made with square wires with 90° bends and packed tighter. In order to keep electric usage/generation/HP more or less adequate the rpm was increased 12-15% with max rpm 18-20k (?). The HF55 has the size of motors increased probably to max allowable space available in the case most likely with HF45 improvements. The larger motors should run cooler. There will not be additional Regen storage without a larger or second drive battery which boils down to a PHEV setup.

 

[710-oil-614]

yet, somehow, combined hp remains unchanged.

You are being dense.

 

[LSchicago]

yet, somehow, combined hp remains unchanged.

Ford never was honest about the Hybrid torque since the beginning. They produce more torque on a dyno than rated for. Tells you how underrated they are.

 

[Cherokee]

I really like my 2024 AWD Lariat, I actually need the AWD and am completely happy with my Ecoboost mpg’s and am very happy with my Ecoboost’s power.
I Lurve my Turbo.
At this point in my life, Retired but working by choice I’m at a point where I can buy a new vehicle every four or five years.
This Maverick of mine I may keep an extra year or two. I like it that much. It has grown on me.

But in a perfect world where we could design our own Mavericks
I’d want,
The 2.0Liter Turbo with the H55 transaxle and the larger electric motors and the
4K package with its lower rear end ratio.
Plus a battery double or triple the capacity of the current 2025 Hybrid.

Bigger battery, 2.0L Turbo, and all the Tow stuff.
Yeah the city and highway mpg’s would be a little lower but the outright performance, oh yea.
The 2.0L Turbo AND the electric power all at once ! Oh yeah Brothers,

I’d like my Maverick to press me back into my seat like the V-8’s of old.

I think my truck is sexy~~~

 

[710-oil-614]

Going by long term memory here...
The HF45 the electric motors were made smaller than the HF35 due to magnet shortages the rotors were made smaller. The magnets shape was modified to improve stability at high rpm. The windings were made with square wires with 90° bends and packed tighter. In order to keep electric usage/generation/HP more or less adequate the rpm was increased 12-15% with max rpm 18-20k (?). The HF55 has the size of motors increased probably to max allowable space available in the case most likely with HF45 improvements. The larger motors should run cooler. There will not be additional Regen storage without a larger or second drive battery which boils down to a PHEV setup.

There will be greater regenerative braking force but yes limited by the same 1.1kwh battery.

 

[HenryFord]

Seems like the article must be missing some details. Seems strange they would say the power is up, but the combined stated power remains the same. Maybe just laying the groundwork for the PHEV version. I would assume they are parts binning this across to the Escape as well. It would be nice if a larger battery were offered in the future and can be retrofit to the current trucks.

 

[710-oil-614]

Seems like the article must be missing some details. Seems strange they would say the power is up, but the combined stated power remains the same. Maybe just laying the groundwork for the PHEV version. I would assume they are parts binning this across to the Escape as well. It would be nice if a larger battery were offered in the future and can be retrofit to the current trucks.

Torque can rise without HP improving.

The combined HP rating is castrated bc the peak HP for the hybrid is not sustainable and reliant on the SoC of the HVB.

0-60 times went down to 6.8 for the hybrid and that’s scooting compared to previous years.

 

[HenryFord]

Torque can rise without HP improving.

The combined HP rating is castrated bc the peak HP for the hybrid is not sustainable and reliant on the SoC of the HVB.

0-60 times went down to 6.8 for the hybrid and that’s scooting compared to previous years.

It sounds like an improvement. Looking forward to trying it out.

 

[HeyBales]

Engine HP is the same Electic HP & TQ is more.

2nd paragraph, if accurate.
New motors, combined with ICE - boost power to 191 HP.

That's not a boost if they are referring to prior MY's - it was already 191 HP combined.
If they are saying what was true about prior MY's - the motor boosts the combined to 191 HP, then fine.
Not news - actually disappointing with bigger motors.

Here's the prior MY's stats separate. Which combined is 191 HP and 245 TQ.
ICE: 162 hp@5600 / 155 lb-ft@4000
Traction Motor: 94 kW (126 hp) / 173 lb-ft

 

[710-oil-614]

2nd paragraph, if accurate.
New motors, combined with ICE - boost power to 191 HP.

That's not a boost if they are referring to prior MY's - it was already 191 HP combined.
If they are saying what was true about prior MY's - the motor boosts the combined to 191 HP, then fine.
Not news - actually disappointing with bigger motors.

Here's the prior MY's stats separate. Which combined is 191 HP and 245 TQ.
ICE: 162 hp@5600 / 155 lb-ft@4000
Traction Motor: 94 kW (126 hp) / 173 lb-ft

It’s not disappointing at all for 2025. We got more electric torque and HP and gearing that improves acceleration performance from a stop or at highway speeds all while maintaining the same level of efficiency.

Its a wonderful evolution of the HF transaxle.

 

[twntyfive2life]

It’s not disappointing at all for 2025. We got more electric torque and HP and gearing that improves acceleration performance from a stop or at highway speeds all while maintaining the same level of efficiency.

Its a wonderful evolution of the HF transaxle.

agreed, it's actually pretty incredible that ford could add awd and 4k tow capabilities, increase 0-60 and highway passing speeds, and have it all come in at just 1 less combined mpg than the fwd hybrid

 

[710-oil-614]

agreed, it's actually pretty incredible that ford could add awd and 4k tow capabilities, increase 0-60 and highway passing speeds, and have it all come in at just 1 less combined mpg than the fwd hybrid

Technically equal to 2022-2024 efficiency. 2025 fwd hybrids see an increase in efficiency!!

 

[The Real Maverick]

The "article" just doesn't sound right to me. No proof (yet) just gut feeling.

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