I'm not an engine performance expert, but the turbo lag to me feels non-existent...much less than any turbo-4s I've had before (Volkswagens mainly).I like your approach to on-ramps. I wish everyone understood how to merge...
These trucks are plenty quick. When you want to get somewhere, they will get up and go. The powertrain really seems to want to reach higher than its 108mph top speed.
IMHO the caveat to all this peppiness is a combination of transmission programming and turbo lag. The lag is not egregious, but it exists, despite the engineering efforts and opinions otherwise. The transmission is a much bigger issue for me, and as an example, if you need to change lanes and accelerate in a hurry - when you floor it, you get a "deep breathhhh aaandd... GO!" There is a definite pause and pucker moment before the gear change comes and you get max thrust. The good news is that both these issues are fixable with a tune, if you find them to be annoying and want to go that route.
Downshifting for deceleration is harder. Only the MY25 Lobo will come with paddle shifters, and that model would be the only way to do it without replacing the steering wheel and doing some wiring/programming. It's not impossible (several around here have done it on MY22-24s) but it is a decent amount of work. I really miss the paddle shifters on my previous vehicle, which were completely silly on an Acura SUV, but were really helpful for downshifting is traffic or coming up to stops.
You get maximum torque at 3000 rpm, but you get 90% of maximum torque (~250 ft-lb) at 2500. Go take a look at the torque curve for Ford's 5.0L Coyote engine. The 2.0L EcoBoost makes the same torque at 2500 rpm as the Coyote. The EcoBoost--like most boosted small-displacement engines meant to replace V6 engines from a variety of manufacturers--are designed to produce torque at lower rpm.
Agree with the different driving experience. RWD V8 is old school. Very few late model vehicles in that config. My last RWD V8 was 1974. Don't miss them at all. RWD V8 does not do well in Midwest winters unless there is extra ballast in the trunk. Most I see nowadays go in the garage in October and don't venture out again until May. But if I lived in the sunbelt, then maybe...
Apparently you haven’t been listening?
I've lived in Florida for 34 years.
I quoted YOUR words regarding lag. This is completely different than the autostop aspect of it.
Either you really didn’t read what he originally wrote, or you have reading comprehension issues.
The start stop function was not the sole cause of his frustration in that scenario. The larger component was because of turbo lag. Even if he had disengaged the auto start/stop feature and the engine was running and idling at 750 rpm and the turbo was idling at 10,000 rpm, then he mashed the accelerator, it is going to take about 1 second for the turbo to hit its 120,000 or so max rpm. That is turbo lag. And yeah, that exact same lag is worse in the 2.0 VW and Audi engines. We weren’t talking about cruising down the freeway at 2,500 rpm and opening the throttle while the turbo was already spinning 50k rpm under light load. Decayed’s original comment was talking about an engine coming off of idle with the throttle plate closed. If I’m at a dead stop in my Tesla and I mash the throttle because I need to take evasive action, there is literally no lag. The lag of like 10 ms is how long it takes my foot to move the accelerator to the floor. 0 lb/ft to 500 lb/ft of torque in 10 ms. Do the same in a Maverick and it is 1500 ms to go from 0 lb/ft to 250 lb/ft. Why is the Maverick so much slower? Because of the turbo. That is turbo lag. I had a 911 4S with an N/A engine. If would do this same thing, with engine off at a stop light and I mash the accelerator, 0 torque to max torque would happen in about 300 ms. Not as fast as an electric motor, But it could do it 5 times faster than the Maverick can. Why so much less time to get to max torque than the Maverick? Because no turbo lag.
Agreed. I put my foot down slowly and it kicks into passing gear, a little more and the turbo kicks in, I’m happy!
Apparently you may also have that reading comprehension problem. It was stated multiple times in this thread that it was turbo lag. Did you miss that part?
So your plan is to let people continue to say things that are not true and play it off as nobody cares?
Yes, we got way off topic.
