⏰ 2023 Maverick Scheduling Next Week (10/17) For Production Build Week 12/5

[pndwind]

It’s great talking about vehicles with constraints getting pushed but everyone keeps avoiding the orders like mine with no constraints except the base power train that keep getting pushed. My order will be at 14 months if actually built the week of 12/12. Ford sucks at customer service and don’t fool yourself into thinking there is any logic in any of this.

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[TheSEARCH]

Can they build a 2022 in 2023? Meaning if they don't finish all the 2022 orders by Jan 2023 is it still legal to do that? Consumer fraud maybe? Or can they do what ever they like?

 

[Tirpitz]

Can they build a 2022 in 2023? Meaning if they don't finish all the 2022 orders by Jan 2023 is it still legal to do that? Consumer fraud maybe? Or can they do what ever they like?

I’m getting my threads messed up so might have been posted in this one but the law says you can run a model year for no more than two calendar years. A lot then depends on the definition of a “calendar year” but one interpretation would be that you can’t produce a model year in three different calendar years. If that is the correct reading then since production started in calendar year 2021 Ford can not produce any 2022 Mavericks after December 31, 2022. Any remaining 2022 VINs would need to be canceled.

Are the loopholes to get around that law? Certainly possible and Ford will be well aware of them if they exist.

 

[commadorebob]

It’s great talking about vehicles with constraints getting pushed but everyone keeps avoiding the orders like mine with no constraints except the base power train that keep getting pushed. My order will be at 14 months if actually built the week of 12/12. Ford sucks at customer service and don’t fool yourself into thinking there is any logic in any of this.

Not to throw fuel on the fire, but how do we know Ford hasn't already canceled the remaining orders and the system is just not being updated properly? Last week we were told the orders for MY22 were balanced out. My understanding of that means Ford has all the parts they need to build what they plan to build for the rest of the MY, negating the need to push anything off.

I want to be wrong on this and maybe Tim will address some of this on Tuesday.

 

[scottp01]

Let's all forget that there are 2022s still waiting to get scheduled that needed to get converted to 2023s. The longer Ford hold off starting scheduling, the more it continues to screw those orders over as rates rise and they continue to have to maintain their current cars.

My dealer told me 4-6 months November of 2021. If by some miracle Ford schedules me the first round of 2023's, I'm looking at almost 14 months of waiting. If I don't get scheduled for December, I'm going to have to move on. (Are you even listening Ford?)

 

[brucerob62]

So anyone ordered on 09/19 (at least hybrid) and feel like you might not be able to be built?
I'm starting to feel this way lol I'm going to hold out hope that maybe just maybe at the end of 2023, they might just barely be able to build my truck.

But for now it's feeling likely I'm just going to end up with a Civic EX-L Hatchback or Integra A-Spec w/Tech pkg and just be happy with that lmao because as much as I'd love a small truck, motherfuckers in North Alabama are speed racers and expect you take curvy roads that are 45mph limits at 75mph minimum. (it's easily the thing I hate most about people here)

the Maverick is cool but it's main draw (hybrid) isn't worth waiting 2 years for to me lol
It's the coolest hybrid on the market right now in my opinion, but I've gone this long without a hybrid, and a Civic/Integra would still be leaps and bounds more fuel efficient than my current daily which rocks a somewhat thirsty 4.2L straight six mated to a 4 speed automatic (thanks GM) I love the engine mind you but ugh it's not fun when gas is above $3/gal ($3.37/gal is what I paid for my last fill up and it's plateaued here at about $3.40/gal or so.)

Y i picked up an xlt hybrid 2022 yesterday for 4k over msrp was 5k but got them to budge a little my 23 orderban xlt ecoboost is still intact so when it does come i will have to make a decision

 

[Tirpitz]

When I ordered my 2022 hybrid just over a year ago I did not need it immediately. Now 12 months later my wife has taken a job that requires twice a week commutes plus occasional drives to various locations around Southern California. The newest vehicle in our fleet is 8 years old and our second one is 21 years old.

I also have a 2023 on order but quite clearly I won't be seeing that one before summer or fall. Or maybe never since it is also a hybrid.

If Ford ends up canceling my scheduled with a VIN 2022 order then I probably have to go out and buy something else for commuting duties. Most likely a new Honda or Toyota. Whatever compensation Ford provides for my canceled 2022 I will apply to the 2023 order unless I just get pissed off about the whole thing and drop that order too.

My first two cars were Fords. They were both 1980's models and had tons of issues. My third car was a Honda and I haven't owned a domestic car since (5 Honda/Acura products and 3 BMWs since then). Ford had a chance to get me back as a customer with the Maverick. They seem posed to blow that chance. Ironically I was willing to go back and try Ford because I wasn't happy with the direction Honda and BMW have been going.

I don't blame them for the crappy state of the supply chain but I do blame them for a failure to set proper customer expectations and provide honest updates on status. Relying on MTC rumors and what Tim Bartz can find out is no way to run your business.

 

[dhill59]

I can see Ford simply starting 2023 orders and get them out quickly versus playing "catch up"- Just let the 2022 orders just cease and live with a few hundred pissed off customers with late or nonresistant orders versus thousands of more PO'd customers with late vehicles. They have to get back on schedule.

 

[B2000]

When I ordered my 2022 hybrid just over a year ago I did not need it immediately. Now 12 months later my wife has taken a job that requires twice a week commutes plus occasional drives to various locations around Southern California. The newest vehicle in our fleet is 8 years old and our second one is 21 years old.

I also have a 2023 on order but quite clearly I won't be seeing that one before summer or fall. Or maybe never since it is also a hybrid.

If Ford ends up canceling my scheduled with a VIN 2022 order then I probably have to go out and buy something else for commuting duties. Most likely a new Honda or Toyota. Whatever compensation Ford provides for my canceled 2022 I will apply to the 2023 order unless I just get pissed off about the whole thing and drop that order too.

My first two cars were Fords. They were both 1980's models and had tons of issues. My third car was a Honda and I haven't owned a domestic car since (5 Honda/Acura products and 3 BMWs since then). Ford had a chance to get me back as a customer with the Maverick. They seem posed to blow that chance. Ironically I was willing to go back and try Ford because I wasn't happy with the direction Honda and BMW have been going.

I don't blame them for the crappy state of the supply chain but I do blame them for a failure to set proper customer expectations and provide honest updates on status. Relying on MTC rumors and what Tim Bartz can find out is no way to run your business.

In my area you will be lucky to find a new Toyota or Honda and will pay over MSRP.

 

[SLINGSHOT]

I will see what the Corolla Cross hybrid is like. Depending on a few different factors, I might just go with Toyota and try to sell the Maverick to the dealer.

 

[Tirpitz]

In my area you will be lucky to find a new Toyota or Honda and will pay over MSRP.

I'm lucky to be in Southern California where you can't throw a stone without hitting a Honda or Toyota dealer. Though I know these are including in transit vehicles CarGurus is showing the following within 50 miles of me:

Civic Sedan = 644
Civic Hatch = 238
Accord = 636
Accord Hybrid = 298
Acura Integra = 181

Toyotas a bit tighter than Hondas. SUVs are another story- much leaner on the ground. But looks like as long as I can happy with a sedan instead of a hatchback things are good.

I only need one dealer to sell at MSRP and I'd be set. Even an in transit car will be here faster than a 2023 Maverick. FYI here looks like 2022 Mavericks are asking $5,000 to $7,500 over sticker.

Anyway hopefully Ford builds my 2022 because it is royal pain in the you know what to have to sift through all the dealers to find one who will quote me sticker.

 

[psnb89]

As the owner of a 2023 Integra with the 6-speed - highly recommended, and easy to attain at MSRP. We have 6,200 miles now in 2.5 months. It regularly averages close to 40mpg on highway trips and its ELS Studio 3D stereo (with an absurd 16 speakers) punches far above its price.

We also bought a 22 Civic Sedan Touring in January for my mother. Also a fantastic car, and the CVT is fine. Honda's oil dilution issues were repaired years ago and were primarily caused by worst-case usage (short trips in cold climates). As long as you never hear the Integra's ELS stereo, the Bose in the Civic is also quite good.

yeah I think I lean towards the CVT Integra ASpec w/Tech especially because of the ELS system I've heard it's a good system and I can't justify the Civic above the EX-L trim lol

 

[MLowe05]

yeah I think I lean towards the CVT Integra ASpec w/Tech especially because of the ELS system I've heard it's a good system and I can't justify the Civic above the EX-L trim lol

Huh. My husband and I felt like the 6-speed was the only way to have the Integra. We both agreed if we were going to buy a CVT, we would have saved $7,000 and bought a Civic Sport Touring hatch. The Si was never in the cards - they were all marked up higher than what we paid for the Integra and much more basic.

But if a manual isn't your thing, that's different. The Integra has quickly proven to be one of our favorites. I initially hesitated as we were replacing a Genesis G70 6MT, a car with RWD w/limited slip, Brembos all around, Michelin PS4s.. but the Integra is just the far better experience overall.

 

[B2000]

I'm lucky to be in Southern California where you can't throw a stone without hitting a Honda or Toyota dealer. Though I know these are including in transit vehicles CarGurus is showing the following within 50 miles of me:

Civic Sedan = 644
Civic Hatch = 238
Accord = 636
Accord Hybrid = 298
Acura Integra = 181

Toyotas a bit tighter than Hondas. SUVs are another story- much leaner on the ground. But looks like as long as I can happy with a sedan instead of a hatchback things are good.

I only need one dealer to sell at MSRP and I'd be set. Even an in transit car will be here faster than a 2023 Maverick. FYI here looks like 2022 Mavericks are asking $5,000 to $7,500 over sticker.

Anyway hopefully Ford builds my 2022 because it is royal pain in the you know what to have to sift through all the dealers to find one who will quote me sticker.

On the Ford website it shows 20 Mavericks today at dealers around me.

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