Hybrid 2.5L: Oil that meets Ford's WSS-M2C962-A1 spec (LIST and COMMENTS)

[inline_five]

I have the EB engine and decided to go with Motorcraft full synthetic oil at 500 miles and change every 5K miles. Here is my dilemma: I am at 4500 miles on the full synthetic and it has a strong gas smell. The level is the same as when I changed it so I am guessing I lost some oil and gained some gas? I ran 2500 miles on this oil at 75mph to 80 mph on a trip to Florida. I am starting to think maybe highway driving is harder on the oil because the turbos are going at it a lot? Let me know what you guys think because I will probably do another oil change real quick.

Apparently direct injection motors have issues with gasoline dilution in the oil. Project Farm did a great segment on some oil testing and on one of them, added 5% gas to the oil (typical is 1%-2%).

It increased wear by about 10%. If it were me, I would change the oil if it smelled like fuel.

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My honest opinion after reading a bunch, watching videos etc is that it's probably better to use a "less good" oil but change it much more often then striving to get "the best" oil. Project Farm did another test of manufacturer oils and Motorcraft was by far the best. Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong using Motorcraft oils and filters and changing them regularly. Outside my warranty period I may go with a cheaper non-OEM brand like Pennzoil Platinum with the Gas-To-Liquid base as it seems to be a super clean and high quality oil for low cost.

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[REMUB40]

Mobil Full Synthetic Series 0W-20 meet this requirement.

 

[Blitz-Hacker]

Apparently direct injection motors have issues with gasoline dilution in the oil. Project Farm did a great segment on some oil testing and on one of them, added 5% gas to the oil (typical is 1%-2%).

It increased wear by about 10%. If it were me, I would change the oil if it smelled like fuel.

Just press play, it starts at the correct segment:



My honest opinion after reading a bunch, watching videos etc is that it's probably better to use a "less good" oil but change it much more often then striving to get "the best" oil. Project Farm did another test of manufacturer oils and Motorcraft was by far the best. Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong using Motorcraft oils and filters and changing them regularly. Outside my warranty period I may go with a cheaper non-OEM brand like Pennzoil Platinum with the Gas-To-Liquid base as it seems to be a super clean and high quality oil for low cost.

Thank you and agree 100%

 

[Limeymav]

i just did my 1st, @ 2400mls with Amsoil 0-20W hybrid & nappa gold filter

 

[Dad]

Hybrid 2.5L oil requires spec of WSS-M2C962-A1. Known ones are:

• Castrol Edge Extended Performance 0W-20
• Havoline LIFELONG (spec sheet) 0W-20
• Kirkland Signature 0W-20 (spec sheet)
• Liqui Moly Molygen New Generation SAE 0W-20
• Liqui Moly Special Tec AA 0W-20
• Liqui Moly Top Tec 6600 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Hybrid 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 0W-20
• Motorcraft 0W-20
• MOTUL 8100 ECO-LITE 0W-20
• Penzoil Platinum (note; not listed on main site but on spec sheet here) 0W-20
• Quarter State Ultimate Protection 0W-20
• Valvoline Advanced (data sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20
• Valvoline Hybrid (spec sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20
• Valvoline Extended Protection (Premium) (spec sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20
• Valvoline Restor & Protect (spec sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20

It's also possible an ILSAC GF-6 rating would be OK, but I cannot completely confirm that. Of note, Penzoil's best oil, Penzoil Ultra Platnium, does not have the Ford WSS-M2C962-A1 rating.

Someone on BITOG did oil changes using Motorcraft 0W-20 and Motorcraft filter and wear/sample was excellent. I may just stick to Motorcraft oil from factory since I only do it once a year, although it is rather pricey, and I was wondering if there was a better non-OEM oil to choose.

Thanks. This is very helpful information.

 

[A Sturdy Beast]

Hybrid 2.5L oil requires spec of WSS-M2C962-A1. Known ones are:

• Kirkland Signature 0W-20 (spec sheet)

I recently bought Kirkland 0-20 (for a different vehicle, not for my Maverick) and the “meets WSS-M2C962-A1” spec is nowhere on the jug. If you use this oil and have a lubricated part failure, the dealer and Ford will have a valid reason to deny your warranty claim.

 

[inline_five]

I recently bought Kirkland 0-20 (for a different vehicle, not for my Maverick) and the “meets WSS-M2C962-A1” spec is nowhere on the jug. If you use this oil and have a lubricated part failure, the dealer and Ford will have a valid reason to deny your warranty claim.

Click on "spec sheet" and it has it listed now. Might just be older labeling on the jug itself?

 

[A Sturdy Beast]

Click on "spec sheet" and it has it listed now. Might just be older labeling on the jug itself?

It isn’t a labeling issue. You’re confusing Warren’s “recommended for” with approved by Ford.

 

[scotty]

Hybrid 2.5L oil requires spec of WSS-M2C962-A1. Known ones are:

• Castrol Edge Extended Performance 0W-20
• Havoline LIFELONG (spec sheet) 0W-20
• Kirkland Signature 0W-20 (spec sheet)
• Liqui Moly Molygen New Generation SAE 0W-20
• Liqui Moly Special Tec AA 0W-20
• Liqui Moly Top Tec 6600 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Hybrid 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 0W-20
• Motorcraft 0W-20
• MOTUL 8100 ECO-LITE 0W-20
• Penzoil Platinum (note; not listed on main site but on spec sheet here) 0W-20
• Quarter State Ultimate Protection 0W-20
• Valvoline Advanced (data sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20
• Valvoline Hybrid (spec sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20
• Valvoline Extended Protection (Premium) (spec sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20
• Valvoline Restor & Protect (spec sheet listing Ford spec) 0W-20

It's also possible an ILSAC GF-6 rating would be OK, but I cannot completely confirm that. Of note, Penzoil's best oil, Penzoil Ultra Platnium, does not have the Ford WSS-M2C962-A1 rating.

Someone on BITOG did oil changes using Motorcraft 0W-20 and Motorcraft filter and wear/sample was excellent. I may just stick to Motorcraft oil from factory since I only do it once a year, although it is rather pricey, and I was wondering if there was a better non-OEM oil to choose.

Sure appreciate all the work you did locating the compatibles oils listed above.
I want to buy" havoline lifelong" as you shown above as compatible for the hybrid.
I like the container of 6 quarts.
I did go to the havoline cite and saw the spec compatibles.
Havoline said 962-A 1. Great but the "1" number had a little 3 next to it.
Does the 3 mean third generation, therefore compatible?
Or only compatible with Ford WSS-M2C947-A1/B1, since "3" is beside the "A1"?

 

[twracing]

Amsoil can be added to the list.

 

[inline_five]

Sure appreciate all the work you did locating the compatibles oils listed above.
I want to buy" havoline lifelong" as you shown above as compatible for the hybrid.
I like the container of 6 quarts.
I did go to the havoline cite and saw the spec compatibles.
Havoline said 962-A 1. Great but the "1" number had a little 3 next to it.
Does the 3 mean third generation, therefore compatible?
Or only compatible with Ford WSS-M2C947-A1/B1, since "3" is beside the "A1"?

I agree that 6qt container is perfect.

The "3" is a footnote that also means it meets the 947 spec as well. While I'm not an oil guy, it appears that 947 was a former spec and has been superseded by 962.

 

[inline_five]

Amsoil can be added to the list.

Thanks will add this later today!

 

[inline_five]

It isn’t a labeling issue. You’re confusing Warren’s “recommended for” with approved by Ford.

While I agree and was hesitant to put it on the list, I'm thinking it just comes down to semantics.

I don't believe Ford approves the specific brand. They set the spec requirements and then the labels test to those requirements. I'm not going to use the Kirkland oil but I wouldn't have an issue putting it in my vehicle as I personally believe it would meet the spec.

EDIT: here is Valvoline's wording:

So similar language here.

 

[blackb13]

Napa's 0w-20 synthetic also meets the hybrid spec as it's just relabeled Valvoline.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...l-synthetic-oil-for-hybrid.35012/#post-633622

 

[inline_five]

Napa's 0w-20 synthetic also meets the hybrid spec as it's just relabeled Valvoline.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...l-synthetic-oil-for-hybrid.35012/#post-633622

Thanks, added it.

$21 for 5 qts right now, pretty solid deal!

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