Beware the delicate Maverick hybrid

[CBennett]

I wouldn't think that the EcoBoost would be any less susceptible to damage, than the hybrid.

well whatever part was broke on the Hybrid wouldnt have been broke on the Eco glad I got the Eco its MPG is plenty good enough for me.. especially compared to the Colorado, Frontier or Tacomas I was looking at comparatively.

And while I hate all EV(find them useless for most people) I really generally like Hybrids(non plug in types) but in this case seems a lot more to go wrong..

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[dochawk]

airbags on any car are (almost) impossible to replace,

Easy for the steering wheel one on a '93 Cadillac Fleetwood (not that I've lost it while replacing the key cylinder , leaving the turn signal funky), or 90s Northstar Cadillacs. I suspect it's the same for most other steering wheel units, too.

 

[commod0re]

Has anyone researched to determine if a hybrid of an
EB is more expensive to insure? I may call my State Farm agent tomorrow and see if there is a difference. Does anyone own both and have them insured????

Generally speaking, vehicles with turbochargers are more expensive to insure because they produce more power and usually can go faster. From the insurer’s perspective they present an increased risk of paying out on a claim so the premiums are set higher to offset that increased risk

most of the questions you answer to get an insurance quote though, are about you as a person and driver, because ultimately the majority of risk to the insurer comes from the types of decisions you are most likely to make while behind the wheel. How fast a car can go is a bigger risk if the person driving it is more likely to be irresponsible, than otherwise

 

[Maverick123]

...
most of the questions you answer to get an insurance quote though, are about you as a person and driver, because ultimately the majority of risk to the insurer comes from the types of decisions you are most likely to make while behind the wheel. How fast a car can go is a bigger risk if the person driving it is more likely to be irresponsible, than otherwise

That's why your credit score makes a big difference in your insurance rates

Generally, here how they see it:
Good credit score = responsible person, less risk of claims
Bad credit score = irresponsible, makes bad decisions, high risk of claims

 

[basicUse]

Easy for the steering wheel one on a '93 Cadillac Fleetwood (not that I've lost it while replacing the key cylinder , leaving the turn signal funky), or 90s Northstar Cadillacs. I suspect it's the same for most other steering wheel units, too.

usually on newer cars the whole system has to blow (side curtains, knees, etc), then the ecu has the be changed. sadly these airbags are very overpriced new and a proper title would need bags not used ones.

 

[Waterick]

weird name for a radiator. The coolant system is all together even the engine and hybrid stuff shares coolant reservoirs . I don't think buying the eco boost would have prevented this according to what that dealer said. Their is no special radiator for the battery.Their is a main radiator and a heater core, then maybe a Aux radiator, and a AC condensor.

The two systems actually have separate reservoirs and don't mix fluids at all. The hybrid radiator is different as it maintains separate core lines for each fluid. I (personally) would need to know more specifics to know what (if any) damage would have been inflicted to an EB in this instance. Might have even been something immediately obvious and/or disabling.

 

[Darryl]

Glad I did my research and decided not to buy a hybrid. I'm hearing mechanics talk about them being rough on the gas engine, plus the added cost and weight.

Hybrids do tend to weigh a bit more. But the fuel savings are SIGNIFICANT. As for them being tougher on the engine, that's TOTAL MISINFORMATION. The engines are specifically designed for hybrid operating conditions. And they last just as long as their non hybrid counterparts. In fact they sometimes last even longer. There are many stories of escape, CMax, Fusion, Prius hybrids lasting well over 200,000 miles with no major engine or transmission repairs. The extra weight is counteracted by the improved fuel economy and often extra brake life.

 

[h1k3rb]

Not sure why folks are responding to Ronp82. It seems like a bot, possibly some kid pretending to be an adult, that apparently left after an outburst some time ago since it wasn't getting favorable responses. Do what you want but I'll continue to ignore it.

 

[basicUse]

The two systems actually have separate reservoirs and don't mix fluids at all. The hybrid radiator is different as it maintains separate core lines for each fluid. I (personally) would need to know more specifics to know what (if any) damage would have been inflicted to an EB in this instance. Might have even been something immediately obvious and/or disabling.

That is true! i assumed they shared the systems. They do have 2 separate coolant reservoirs that are made as 1 unit to save cost so you are right. The smaller one is used for battery, ECU's and motor unit. The big ones engine only. I looked at the hybrid diagram before posting and did not see a separate radiator which made me assume it was one system. I was only looking at one of the diagrams! I will revise my wrong post.


"Both are independent of each other. Separate heat exchangers, pumps and reservoirs. They are not interconnected and operate at different design temperatures to accomplish different tasks"

 

[Sykotyk]

I hit a possom or some other small white animal and bent inward the plastic bumper on the bottom corner of the truck, and bent in the bottom edge of painted metal bumper above it. Also, a small nick in the corner fender.

Total cost was nearly $3k.

Three times now I've had a vehicle in for repair. An accident my wife had with a yellow post was over $3k and a car slid into the rear door and corner fender. Was also over $3k. Another time ice fell off my house and left two small quarter sized dents in the metal above the driver's door. That whole piece being replaced (which was part of the corner fender) and paint to match was over $3k.

The thing is INSURANCE DOESN'T CARE about these payout. They care about injuries and deaths. Those are so ridiculously expensive that paying out dozens of small vehicle claims is nothing.

Same thing with the big push to switch to traffic circles over red lights. There's actually MORE accidents with traffic circles but they're all small dollar accidents with very few injuries and far fewer deaths than traffic lights. Traffic intersections with lights rarely have MINOR accidents. Almost every accident at an intersection is a totaled vehicle and a high likelihood of injuries or death.

It seems counter-intuitive. But to insurance, and to the DOT and NTSB, small pricy accidents with no injuries is so much better than rare but deadly accidents.

 

[Larrythelunatic]

I hit a possom or some other small white animal and bent inward the plastic bumper on the bottom corner of the truck, and bent in the bottom edge of painted metal bumper above it. Also, a small nick in the corner fender.

Total cost was nearly $3k.

Three times now I've had a vehicle in for repair. An accident my wife had with a yellow post was over $3k and a car slid into the rear door and corner fender. Was also over $3k. Another time ice fell off my house and left two small quarter sized dents in the metal above the driver's door. That whole piece being replaced (which was part of the corner fender) and paint to match was over $3k.

The thing is INSURANCE DOESN'T CARE about these payout. They care about injuries and deaths. Those are so ridiculously expensive that paying out dozens of small vehicle claims is nothing.

Same thing with the big push to switch to traffic circles over red lights. There's actually MORE accidents with traffic circles but they're all small dollar accidents with very few injuries and far fewer deaths than traffic lights. Traffic intersections with lights rarely have MINOR accidents. Almost every accident at an intersection is a totaled vehicle and a high likelihood of injuries or death.

It seems counter-intuitive. But to insurance, and to the DOT and NTSB, small pricy accidents with no injuries is so much better than rare but deadly accidents.

Wow!
I don’t know if there is a legitimate argument against this post. Maybe there is.
But, boy, does this impress me with a lot of sense!
Really some good points upon which to dwell.

 

[The Cyber Orange Guy.]

Did you ever have a problem with it exploding?

I mean taco bell have some effects on me, but what I can say ? I like the place.

 

[BlueOval1954]

Five weeks ago, my wife had a minor collision with an SUV that caused some cosmetic damage to my left front bumper. (It caught the right rear bumper of the SUV in a glancing blow.) No dents, no major scratches, and the no air bags deployed. It cost all of $80 to buff away some rubber residue and apply some touch up paint. Fast forward to last week, when I noticed a small puddle on the garage floor, and later that day the truck stalled and was towed to the Ford dealer. They informed me that the high voltage radiator (it cools the high voltage battery) and some grill shutters have suffered impact damage, which will cost $3,258 to repair. I'm really surprised it took a month for the damage to manifest itself. And, if I had known the hybrid was so fragile, I would have opted for the Eco-boost.

WOW, lower cost to buy., higher cost to repair. Ford is gonna make their money one way or another.

 

[Sugarbush Bob]

I don't think hidden damage is that uncommon. I had a bump onto the fender of a 15 year old car. . No damage except for a slow leak from a small crack in transmission cooler line. Insurance paid for the repair.

 

[Robot-Wrangler]

Five weeks ago, my wife had a minor collision with an SUV that caused some cosmetic damage to my left front bumper. (It caught the right rear bumper of the SUV in a glancing blow.) No dents, no major scratches, and the no air bags deployed. It cost all of $80 to buff away some rubber residue and apply some touch up paint. Fast forward to last week, when I noticed a small puddle on the garage floor, and later that day the truck stalled and was towed to the Ford dealer. They informed me that the high voltage radiator (it cools the high voltage battery) and some grill shutters have suffered impact damage, which will cost $3,258 to repair. I'm really surprised it took a month for the damage to manifest itself. And, if I had known the hybrid was so fragile, I would have opted for the Eco-boost.

I feel your pain. A seemingly minor collision with no air bag, no dented painted sheet metal, $10k and four months to repair.

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