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The " directional" rotation is when you have directional tread tires on your ride... they mustv always rotate in the same direction
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Whenever I do the dealer Quick Change oil change, they rotate tires. I wonder what the tech doing it really does?
I will bet most dealer techs never looked at a owner's manual and just go front to back. I had a dealer charge me for a rotate after paying walked out to car always had a scratch on R/R wheel and their it was R/R again, what they do they said they were sorry and gave me a free car wash ticket, the RO had 2 things on it, 1. oil change and 2. rotate tires, that's it, Tech said he didn't see number 2. rotate tires. Always mark your tires. Never went back there and sold vehicle and ordered a Maverick, that was in Oct of 21 got it in June of 22 that was my retirement gift to myself.
XLT FX4 LUX all the packages, loved that truck so much got a 25 Lariat all the packages when the warranty expired, can't wait for warranty to expire on 25 getting a Lobo in 28,
most of the time its not the dealers fault its the Tech working on the vehicle, I know I worked for a dealer 30 years, they can't check every vehicle, it's impossible to get competent people, our insurance policy required every employe to go through a credit, background, and drug check, it eliminated 80% of the people we wanted to hire, all the independent shops got all the best techs, our insurance was 100k a year, my health insurance was $155 when I started when I left it was $650 for a single that was 5 years ago their likely a lot more now one reason why the labor rates are 180/240 in our area.
Independent shops don't pay benefits and their insurance in 1/10 of dealers if that. Some of the better independent shops are getting smart; to stay alive they have to invest more in equipment, building and pay better and offer some kind of benefit's.
 

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I have a cup of coffee and cruise the lot reading window stickers on the new trucks
While my trusted dealer does all that when I get my oil changed.
If I’m working that day they even pick it up and return it to me if I ask, for free.
 

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Ty. I try to save people money and they get pissed lol. I wonder if those people work at tire places 😆
I had two tires have tread seperations this year.

One, on my '64 Dodge projects, blew out while parked in my storage area next to my shop... since the car has been parked since 1984, I'm guess it was over 40 years old.

The second, on my '87 F350, had a three digit date code which would be pre-2000. It, too, has mostly been parked since '14.

I read where the tire industry suggests you replace tires every six to ten years regardless of mileage.

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I have a cup of coffee and cruise the lot reading window stickers on the new trucks
While my trusted dealer does all that when I get my oil changed.
If I’m working that day they even pick it up and return it to me if I ask, for free.
Sounds like they should at least pick you up instead - and then drive slowly thru the lot on the way to your truck.
 

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A load spreading bar will alleviate any concerns. I use a ~30" piece of oak 2x4 salvaged from a pallet.
I agree, never jack in the middle unless you stretch out the load evenly, a simple 3/4' 2x4 should do it, remember to loosen lugs first. Never did a maverick that way but have done hundreds of unbody vehicles that way in my younger years in a shop when lifts were tied up, just go high enough to get tires off the ground and never get under it without horses.
Can't believe I have to say that but have seen it done.
 

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I have been driving 50 years and have never rotated tires on any of my vehicles. I have a 16 year old ram with the factory firestones, all 4 tires look the same after 16 years at 39,000 miles. The factory continentals on our 23 mav all look the same at 37,000 miles. If your suspension isnt faulty you shouldn't need to rotate. Just my 2 cents. Spend your money how you see fit 😃
Im been driving 63 years & like you, have never rotated tires. Also never observed unusual wear. Perhaps Im just lucky?? My 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid had 95K miles when I sold it, original tires, only half worn, never rotated. But I'm always open to correction.
 

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Im been driving 63 years & like you, have never rotated tires. Also never observed unusual wear. Perhaps Im just lucky?? My 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid had 95K miles when I sold it, original tires, only half worn, never rotated. But I'm always open to correction.
Same.some depend to much on the tire manufacturers recommendations, which are put in place to generate revenue.
 
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Im been driving 63 years & like you, have never rotated tires. Also never observed unusual wear. Perhaps Im just lucky?? My 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid had 95K miles when I sold it, original tires, only half worn, never rotated. But I'm always open to correction.
Except for 1 prior vehicle and current Mav - all my prior vehicles were used and various states of rust underneath.

Some had no adjustments for some alignment in the back - some did but without some expensive replacement parts they were not going to get it.
Even my Rav4 with great straight tracking for 8 years until steering rack replaced, actually discovered a wise person had prior aligned the front to compensate for the rear that couldn't be corrected due to rusted parts. Sadly I couldn't find that wise person after the rack was replaced.

So I've always rotated - usually every 5-6k, just to help spread the load of uneven wear.
And it worked, generally get close to rated mileage.

The Mav was rotated at 10K, and it did show decently more wear on one axle then the other (records at home, I forgot which). About to hit 20K, and if they are closer now - plan on doing 5K rotates. I don't tow - so not sure why the difference. Not my hard braking or hard corners!
 
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Same.some depend to much on the tire manufacturers recommendations, which are put in place to generate revenue.
But tires last longer if you rotate, supposedly. So that is not really generating anything for tire companies.
 

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But tires last longer if you rotate, supposedly. So that is not really generating anything for tire companies.
In my opinion they dont, but I was referring to a different post about how often tires should be replaced. My apologies.
 

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Except for 1 prior vehicle and current Mav - all my prior vehicles were used and various states of rust underneath.

Some had no adjustments for some alignment in the back - some did but without some expensive replacement parts they were not going to get it.
Even my Rav4 with great straight tracking for 8 years until steering rack replaced, actually discovered a wise person had prior aligned the front to compensate for the rear that couldn't be corrected due to rusted parts. Sadly I couldn't find that wise person after the rack was replaced.

So I've always rotated - usually every 5-6k, just to help spread the load of uneven wear.
And it worked, generally get close to rated mileage.

The Mav was rotated at 10K, and it did show decently more wear on one axle then the other (records at home, I forgot which). About to hit 20K, and if they are closer now - plan on doing 5K rotates. I don't tow - so not sure why the difference. Not my hard braking or hard corners!
I will monitor my Mav tires & rotate if I feel necessary based on wear patterns. I might discover it beneficial in spite of never rotating in my life. Time will tell.
 

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I jack up one side of the car and move the front tire to the back and the back to the front on each side. That’s what I have done for 45 years and never had a problem with uneven wear.
In the distant past before radial tires became the norm, fires were rotated from side to side and front to rear. They'd eventually be placed on all positions. That changed when radials were used because they couldn't tolerate being moved from side to side where the direction changed after turning one direction for a while. Today it doesn't matter because they indeed can change direction without harm. But I still keep them on the same side because that's what I used to doing
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