There are more Maverick nowadays, definitely!

[sanpablo]

I will usually see at least one whenever I'm driving. For a long time they were very rare

I'm still not seeing very many in my area, Suffolk County, Long Island, NY. I know more have been sold of course but I just don't see that many when I'm out and the local Ford dealers still have very few on their lots.

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[Fcnrwy]

As posted previously, the longeivty is really dependent on how the vehicle is maintained.
The unibody will eventually weaken over time, from the stresses of use. With a frame the body is not subject these same stresses...
Like anything "man-made" it does have a limited shelf-life..

Jerry

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Parts.ford.com shows certain of the front cv axles starting at $159 and the rear at about $300 per.

So this isn't something I should be losing my mind over then. Why the hell was I seeing people on the forums paying close to a grand for that? Labor costs maybe?

 

[EONR24]

Every manufacturer has QC or some sort of known problem, that is correct.

I'm speaking to the Maverick being a purpose built vehicle; "Cheap" being the operative and relative term.

It's design and general build is not as robust, as say, a full size F150. It's nowhere near a fair comparison because they are not in the same category. Ford could also put together a "cheap" full size by implementing purposeful cost cutting measures such as bare bones plastic interiors with little tech, weaker frames (to what would be allowed by safety standards) the list could/would go on and I'm not smart enough to put it together.

In regards to the Coyote, you couldn't be more incorrect. Assume you are calling it old technology because it's a V8.
The latest gen Coyote is both port and direct injection, quite advanced, efficient and powerful. Old technology I would align moreso with the 5.3 pushrods GM carries.

I went with a lease because it's a better strategy for having fleet vehicles with the deducations applied "write offs".
Further to that, I would not finance or purchase a Maverick outright for my reasons noted previously.

This is a Maverick forum, I get it. People love their rides and take things personally.
I own a F150 Coyote (clearly) and an Expedition Stealth Performance (Raptor high output Ecoboost) as my personal vehicles.
Those forums, which I am also a member, are the same in terms of members defend their vehicles due to their passion of them while others call a spade, a spade. Both those forums and vehicles are not without their own problems.

The Maverick is a great purpose built vehicle, otherwise I wouldn't have brought one into our book of business. That said, part of what makes it great is that you know what you're getting; expect little, feel as though you're getting more.

You have 3 vehicles that aren't even 3 years old yet and you are talking about longevity

You sound extremely biased. I have owned cars from over 10 different car brands. Sounds like you have not.. Let's talk about longevity after 100k miles.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

The Maverick is not a vehicle to be purchased long term with longevity expected. While there will be exceptions to the rule, it's a cheap, pretend truck, that may survive warranty period then deteriorate.

I've done a 4 yr, 60k lease, then sending it back. No way in hell it's being bought back. The more you see of them and as years go on, the shortcomings that have been reflected in the original purchase price will come forth. The resale value will continue to decline.

For what it is; decently priced, great on fuel, compact, and mildly capable it makes for a perfect puddle jumper. It has its place and has its value, but I'll take a box frame, full size half ton with the proven Coyote for longevity.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. The maverick seems to be like the old 90s rangers. A reliable, durable, yet value oriented truck. The reliability issues with some of the 90s rangers when they were new were actually more substantial than what the maverick is dealing with. Keep in mind most of the hybrid issues stem back to the 12v battery in one way or another. Meaning if you spend $50 to swap in a higher quality battery, and get your recalls done, you're golden. The Ecoboost also seems to be pretty reliable apart from the occasional horror story on the turbos, or the 8 speed, but that's rare.

Just like the ranger, you're gonna see a few things. You're gonna see people who treat the maverick like a cheap disposable truck, beating the hell out of it, not maintenance it, etc. Those mavericks will probably be off the road by the time they're 10 years old give or take. Then you'll see people who genuinely love their maverick, and take care of it, those will be the people 15 years from now talking about how reliable their maverick has been.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Your points are all well taken, but there is no statistical correlation between MSRP & long term performance. Price generally reflects content (tech & options) and materials quality, not lifetime service. There are no ingredients in the Mav build list suggesting sub-par long term performance. This is also assuming the vehicle in question is used/maintained as the mfg'r specifies.

20 years from now, perhaps you'll be proven correct in your statement, but currently, there is no factual support of your claim, and in actuality, I believe there are some JDP studies that favor lower priced vehicles in long term reliability studies.

Yeah, the maverick is actually on list after list of most reliable trucks, most reliable affordable cars, and cars with the lowest cost of repair and maintenance. It's sad to see people on the forums having issues, I wish them the best. But it seems like they're part of 1 or 2% of owners that every vehicle has who deal with issues early on due to getting unlucky.

Cheap, basic cars as you mentioned tend to be more reliable than higher end vehicles. There's less to break, and I firmly believe brands dedicate more effort to making the vehicles more reliable, because they understand people who maybe don't have as much disposable income are gonna be more annoyed with expensive ownership costs than someone driving a 100k range Rover.

Apart from fuel economy, and the affordable price, the next major talking point the maverick development team had was how reliable it was, how c2 was a robust and durable platform, and how they did tons of testing, etc.

 

[Kingfish]

Every manufacturer has QC or some sort of known problem, that is correct.

I'm speaking to the Maverick being a purpose built vehicle; "Cheap" being the operative and relative term.

It's design and general build is not as robust, as say, a full size F150. It's nowhere near a fair comparison because they are not in the same category. Ford could also put together a "cheap" full size by implementing purposeful cost cutting measures such as bare bones plastic interiors with little tech, weaker frames (to what would be allowed by safety standards) the list could/would go on and I'm not smart enough to put it together.

In regards to the Coyote, you couldn't be more incorrect. Assume you are calling it old technology because it's a V8.
The latest gen Coyote is both port and direct injection, quite advanced, efficient and powerful. Old technology I would align moreso with the 5.3 pushrods GM carries.

I went with a lease because it's a better strategy for having fleet vehicles with the deducations applied "write offs".
Further to that, I would not finance or purchase a Maverick outright for my reasons noted previously.

This is a Maverick forum, I get it. People love their rides and take things personally.
I own a F150 Coyote (clearly) and an Expedition Stealth Performance (Raptor high output Ecoboost) as my personal vehicles.
Those forums, which I am also a member, are the same in terms of members defend their vehicles due to their passion of them while others call a spade, a spade. Both those forums and vehicles are not without their own problems.

The Maverick is a great purpose built vehicle, otherwise I wouldn't have brought one into our book of business. That said, part of what makes it great is that you know what you're getting; expect little, feel as though you're getting more.

Agreed. There really isn't an apples-to-apples comparison to another truck on the market, yet.

But your point is that the Maverick is a lower-quality build than other trucks (probably true), and therefore not worth purchasing for the long term.

My point is that most other trucks on the market, like the ones you own personally, have a 200%+ cost of ownership compared to the Maverick. So unless an F150 has more than twice the useful life as the average Maverick, there's no financial benefit to its longevity.

The F150 has other benefits. But the durability comparison is moot.

I do love my Maverick, but I'm also a huge F150 fan. If I had a need for one, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[JennyJoannSuebeeMcNash]

They are starting to pop up in my area too! I am so excited to finally be a part of the club

Maverick drivers need a wave like the Jeep folks do.

Hell, I'm still getting stopped at lights and having the occasional conversation with other Maverick owners!

 

[HolyCarp]

I'm totally surrounded by them. Every trim. I see a lot of fleet Mavericks. Tremors, etc.

The odd thing is that dealerships here still don't have many in stock. Just a handful on the lots (meaning there is a non-computer-generated photo, but at least they're only advertising MSRP. I keep waiting for lot stock to recover. Has to happen sometime. Even if just Ecoboost variants.

Just drove by the Ford dealership close to my house yesterday. It had 6 Maverick Tremors parked out front.

 

[The Real Maverick]

I saw my first lighter blue (medium blue) one after 2.5 years. Must be a rare color. Surprising.

I see lots of Area 51, black, white, a couple Alto Blue, a couple silvers. One cyber orange. Can't recall seeing any red either.

This is in a big metro area.

 

[Decayed]

So this isn't something I should be losing my mind over then. Why the hell was I seeing people on the forums paying close to a grand for that? Labor costs maybe?

Yeah labor, parts markups and additional work. And it depends on how many axles you are doing. Every time someone complains about some absurd price quote I always wonder if we are hearing the whole story.

This site is handy for getting a general idea of what stuff should cost:

repairpal.com

 

[MJG44]

You have 3 vehicles that aren't even 3 years old yet and you are talking about longevity

You sound extremely biased. I have owned cars from over 10 different car brands. Sounds like you have not.. Let's talk about longevity after 100k miles.

I sound biased in what regard? I own (or rent, pending how you view a lease) 27 vehicles, currently, with the Maverick being the 27th. My fleet consists of different brands of different ages with different purposes. I have personally been using the Maverick these past two weeks as a run around vehicle until I pass it on to an Employee.
I just happen to like Ford trucks for my personal vehicles. I typically flip every year but I've personalized/modded the current two 2022s to my liking. Plus, my wife is tired of me trading in and having to get use to another truck again.

One of my Cargo vans, the Chev Express 2500 of 2007 is nearly the same as the most current 2023 2500 in our fleet. These GMs stand the test of time, if maintained. Usually the body will rot before the powertrain.

The Maverick is lovely, I have enjoyed it to date. Longer drives the comfortability becomes an issue, though.

Cheaper builds with less tech and simplicity would stand the test of time, logically or in theory. Look at the old Camry or Civics.

With that said, the Maverick is not a true truck. It is not built nearly as robust. It is compact, it is made with cheap components of the undercarriage and that's perfectly fine. I've never kept an Escape in our fleet because, well, it's an Escape and they need to be sent back for similar reasons, in my opinion, as the Maverick.

There's certain vehicles I will finance or buy outright while others I will not. The Maverick falls into the latter of the two. I will continue to lease them until Ford (which is already happening) turns them from "cheap" price points to overpriced, without improving the product.

Price point doesn't equal longevity. My more expensive vehicles may cost me more to maintain or just cause me grief. Equal maintenance or care comparing a Maverick to an Escape, I would expect them to keep pace with one another. That said, put it against a Tacoma in that same regard and the Taco would blow it out of the water.


It's awesome to be proud of your ride and it's sometimes difficult , especially when speaking in model/brand specific forums, to not be bias towards what you own. I am a Ford fan boy myself, I get it!

 

[icegradner]

The maverick seems to be like the old 90s rangers. A reliable, durable, yet value oriented truck.

If this is how bad the old ranger was, glad I never got one. It's so cheaply built it's not even funny. Truck isn't even 2 year old and it has more issues than my last four vehicles combined.

 

[Dignam]

They are everywhere now in my area. I was out at lunch yesterday by a busy downtown road and counted 4 or 5 go by, and those were just the ones I noticed.

 

[Fcnrwy]

If this is how bad the old ranger was, glad I never got one. It's so cheaply built it's not even funny. Truck isn't even 2 year old and it has more issues than my last four vehicles combined.

Nope...
I bought my 2nd Ranger, a 1994 in 2001 and drove it for another 11 years. Gave it to my brother and he drove it for another 4... No Junk HERE!!

Jerry

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