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[HeyBales]

Well bring on the OTA update. I am just figuring out the climate control system. You say there is a parking break? What will they think of next?

24 XLT?
Don't worry about the OTA update - can't get it anyway.

Who needs to brake when parked anyway!

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[jono]

Read the manual - you should always use the parking brake when parking a car, almost every car with an automatic transmission will state this in the manual, ours included

Three words that can save thousands of dollars: "Read the manual."

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Well bring on the OTA update. I am just figuring out the climate control system. You say there is a parking break? What will they think of next?

Give me a BREAK give me an automatic BRAKE!

 

[JonP_Maine]

As others have stated, I rarely use my parking brake but I was reading about how little support there is for the truck in park so I may rethink that given the Mav will just release it when you shift into drive.

 

[mcrandall]

Explain to me again why we needed electric parking brakes.

 

[HeyBales]

Explain to me again why we needed electric parking brakes.

Because people were clamoring for auto-hold ability, and when the hill is steep enough the EPB provides extra assurance you won't roll back until ready to move.
Or for EB's it is the hold method I'd think with a vacuum booster.

Then that made it possible to do the hill-assist ability, also possibly needing the EPB if steep enough.

Also protecting drivers not doing their parking/exit vehicle sequence in best order to prevent injuries - so let's protect the few.

Oh, and since it's there, can also ruin the fun factor in snow using the manual parking brake lever.

And, can also raise the adrenalin rush if the wheel brakes ever do go out, and you wonder if your jerking up on a little lever will really help or break the plastic.

Let's see, what else...

 

[Aherpa]

If Ford says that even an automatic tranny in park should have the parking brake set and since the parking brake is electronically operated, maybe Ford could make an option in the software to set it for you when the vehicle is in park and you open the drivers door, then automatically release it when the truck is started and put in drive.
If Ford is recommending to use the parking brake ever time the truck is left in park, the mechanics of the system should be robust enough to handle it . . .

 

[Pointyears]

Because people were clamoring for auto-hold ability, and when the hill is steep enough the EPB provides extra assurance you won't roll back until ready to move.

No one with an automatic transmission ever "clamored" for such a thing.

 

[m5040]

I don't understand the worry of it rolling away, the vehicle goes into park and will not roll away in park. I have not used a parking brake in any of my cars over decades and have never had any issues. I know you depend on the pin prawl locking it however the parking brake is not an issue of it rolling away.

My 24 model applies the park brake by itself depending on the incline of where you parked. But it has the 4k tow package which has a screen that you can look at the angle your truck is at, I guess to see how bad you overloaded it, anyway they must have incorporated that into the auto park brake apply for when you park on an + incline. If you don't release it and depress the accelerator pedal, it releases on its own.

 

[sajohnson]

Another reason to use the parking brake is to keep it operational.

Of course the flip side of that is that it only has X cycles before it fails. Hopefully that's not an issue.

 

[Darryl]

Explain to me again why we needed electric parking brakes.

They ALWAYS apply correctly and don't depend on strength. Many people don't apply the brakes enough to even hold the vehicle. I've seen others that struggle to release the lever type parking brake. People who have a weak arm or left leg . That includes LOT of people through injury., stroke, aging, other disability, or amputation. I have a prosthetic left leg. I can use a clutch. But it's a struggle to press some parking brakes. I sometimes have to maneuver and use my right leg. . Also No cables to rust.Thats a problem even in Florida. Even moreso in northern areas. Easier to service the brakes especially if the calipers need to be removed. They're better in every way other than going through extra trouble to release them if the battery is dead. I see MULTIPLE advantages and only ONE potential disadvantage. Not all change is bad

 

[MakinDoForNow]

They ALWAYS apply correctly and don't depend on strength. Many people don't apply the brakes enough to even hold the vehicle. I've seen others that struggle to release the lever type parking brake. People who have a weak arm or left leg . That includes LOT of people through injury., stroke, aging, other disability, or amputation. I have a prosthetic left leg. I can use a clutch. But it's a struggle to press some parking brakes. I sometimes have to maneuver and use my right leg. . Also No cables to rust.Thats a problem even in Florida. Even moreso in northern areas. Easier to service the brakes especially if the calipers need to be removed. They're better in every way other than going through extra trouble to release them if the battery is dead. I see MULTIPLE advantages and only ONE potential disadvantage. Not all change is bad

Another reason to justify a 12v jump starter with an on/off switch installed in cab. Call the cost unused (hopefully) insurance for many other things also.

 

[Carlitos_92]

No one with an automatic transmission ever "clamored" for such a thing.

Sure they did... once it was introduced for the first time by a luxury brand.

That's how it works - snazzy new features are introduced on some up-market vehicle, and all of the sudden the feature becomes aspirational. Then the features "trickle down" to the Fords and Hondas of the industry as they try to one-up each other with features that mimic what you get on the more expensive marques. Obviously in some ways it also helps the OEMs justify charging more for the vehicle.

This forum is sortof an outlier because there is an outsized population of... vintage owners who'd be fine with no touchscreens, just a CD player, and manual-crank windows. I get that. But Mercedes has had display screens continuous across the dash for a few years now. And this summer I rented a Nissan Sentra with radar cruise control... A Sentra. You tell me where you think the market is headed.

 

[Pointyears]

Another reason to use the parking brake is to keep it operational.

Of course the flip side of that is that it only has X cycles before it fails. Hopefully that's not an issue.

I got my first electric parking brake on a 2005 Lincoln LS. Never had an issue with that, or the Escapes that had them.

 

[Pointyears]

Sure they did... once it was introduced for the first time by a luxury brand.

That's how it works - snazzy new features are introduced on some up-market vehicle, and all of the sudden the feature becomes aspirational. Then the features "trickle down" to the Fords and Hondas of the industry as they try to one-up each other with features that mimic what you get on the more expensive marques. Obviously in some ways it also helps the OEMs justify charging more for the vehicle.

Oh, I'm not arguing against manufacturer copy-itis; I agree that's totally a thing.

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