Aaahhhhyessss clicked on it and read it. Appears that they have just read posts here and elsewhere and are fishing for people to represent. I do not remember reading where anyone has actually made a complaint with them.
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No way. My '21 RAV4 hybrid had no such braking problem nor have I heard of any other manufacturers hybrids suffering from a braking problem. The Mavericks brakes suck in low speed stop and go traffic and parking lot speeds.
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My 2012 KIA Hybrid has that weird braking. Sometimes they grab hard when breaking slowly.
Definitely one of the top gripes I have with it.
On a positive note, the brake pads have never been changed. Sitting at just over 188,000 miles on the odometer.
Definitely one of the top gripes I have with it.
On a positive note, the brake pads have never been changed. Sitting at just over 188,000 miles on the odometer.
Don't believe that is the problem at all in this case.
Agree. My 2012 Prius brakes were nothing like these.
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Okay if this is correct then would when first driving for the day a hard use of the brakes to make sure the friction brakes engage to clean rust off rotors I would think would help with this., Still not convinced this is it. I watched a guy on youtube (testdriventv) demonstrate this brake grabbing. Seems more to it. I don't have a Mav but have one on order. So I cant test things out.
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As in most things in life, it can be due to multiple factors.
And just because yours does it, does not mean all do it. And because you've never seen it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
I've driven FIVE different makes and models of Hybrids and all had this phenomenon to some degree.
Thus I conclude TO SOME DEGREE this is normal behavior.
Is it worse than other cars? Maybe.
And just because yours does it, does not mean all do it. And because you've never seen it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
I've driven FIVE different makes and models of Hybrids and all had this phenomenon to some degree.
Thus I conclude TO SOME DEGREE this is normal behavior.
Is it worse than other cars? Maybe.
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A measured difference between 2005 Escape Hybrid and 2022 Mav Hybrid:
Escape: blended brakes down to 6 MPH.
Friction brakes only at 5.99 MPH and less.
Maverick: blended brakes down to 3 MPH. Friction brakes only at 2.99 MPH and less.
Me, who cares about every ounce of gas savings welcomes this change.
Now, consider yourself as the computer. The driver is creeping along at 2.99 or 3.00 MPH. Which form of braking do you use when wind and slope and bumps in terrain are making the speed waffle right on the line......
2.99 - 3.00 - 2.99 - 3.00
You see this is not a trivial task.
You can be aware of this phenomenon (which is key, it's really only "dangerous" the first time it happens and how dangerous is it at 3 mph?). Or, maybe, you could have Ford reprogram the Mav to be more Escape like, but the phenomenon will still occur, just at 6 mph vs. 3 mph.
I welcome everyone to do detailed observations. Does this occur only, or at least primarily at 3 mph?
Escape: blended brakes down to 6 MPH.
Friction brakes only at 5.99 MPH and less.
Maverick: blended brakes down to 3 MPH. Friction brakes only at 2.99 MPH and less.
Me, who cares about every ounce of gas savings welcomes this change.
Now, consider yourself as the computer. The driver is creeping along at 2.99 or 3.00 MPH. Which form of braking do you use when wind and slope and bumps in terrain are making the speed waffle right on the line......
2.99 - 3.00 - 2.99 - 3.00
You see this is not a trivial task.
You can be aware of this phenomenon (which is key, it's really only "dangerous" the first time it happens and how dangerous is it at 3 mph?). Or, maybe, you could have Ford reprogram the Mav to be more Escape like, but the phenomenon will still occur, just at 6 mph vs. 3 mph.
I welcome everyone to do detailed observations. Does this occur only, or at least primarily at 3 mph?
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Possibly yes.
I did it the first time I drove the Escape after it was parked outdoors unused for several consecutive days or weeks and it helped eliminate brake noise, not only the grabbiness.
Personally I wouldn't do it every day, only do it if you observed the grabbiness on a particular day.
A more "comfortable" option vs. hard application of brakes: Shift to Neutral and make one regular stop in Neutral. Neutral turns the regenerative braking off so you'll use only the friction pads.
I know these "tips and tricks"'seem silly at times, but it's an option.
And please don't chime in with "we shouldn't have to do this" BS.
Same can be said of anything in life, so those comments have no weight.
I sent my concerns to the NHTSA also, I'm with U Ford needs to get off the Dime and get this corrected
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I totally disagree with your thoughts on this matter. This is not normal for a hybrid. I have driven hybrids for many many years. Unless it’s normal to be messed up on a Ford. I have never felt anything like this with my Toyota Hybrids they have always been consistent in the way they brake. Yes hybrids brake differently due to regeneration but with my other hybrids I got use to it because the braking was always consistent as to HOW it felt when braking. Not the case with this maverick, you never know how those brakes are going to feel when you approach a stop it’s a simple as that it is not consistent. That is what’s important it is not consistent. That is why it is dangerous. What is occurring is not right since every time one comes to a stop you don’t know if it will a grabbing brake or smooth brake.
I drove a brand new Hybrid Corolla for a weekend back in the spring, no issues with brakes, never even thought about it. Following this as I wait on my delivery, hoping it is something that Ford can tweak and get right, or I don't notice it.
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Tips and tricks silly? What would make any of us think that?!
Comfortable option?! Oh man. Nope! Chiming in............NOW........We shouldn't have to do this. You gonna call B.S.? The brakes suck! Does my comment have weight? YES.
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