No allocations = no truck?

[glider]

Ford sales, " I know you ordered a Maverick almost 2 years ago, but no truck for you. We can't get them. You should have chosen a dealer with allocations. " /s
I don't understand allocations. No allocations = no truck? Looks like Ford can build all of the 23 roll overs. But it sounds like you won't get yours if your dealer has no allocations. Or you will just go in the lottery pool with the rest of the 24 orders. The never-ending merry-go-round. Not even a hint when or if you will get a truck.
I'm ranting a bit today.

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[Fibrepunk]

Yup, that is how it works. No allocation = no truck will be built for that dealer.

 

[OleFordGuy]

Pretty much sums it up by my understanding and what many MY22 to MY23 roll overs experienced. First time order placements were getting built and delivered while the MY22 roll overs continued to wait. I think there might still be some waiting, but I hope not. It's been proven many times, Allocations Is King. Regardless of what your Dealer or Fords priority code is, its worthless if your dealer doesn't have Allocations from what I've seen happen based on post from MTC members. I fully expect to see post of first time MY24 orders get delivered before some MY23 to MY24 roll overs. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will probably happen again - Hope Not, but guess we'll see.

 

[Bhdreadnaught]

I’m sure there are complex things for them to juggle… but at some level trying to steer customers towards dealers that have terrible policies and have abused customers in these market conditions isn’t a good look.

Ford sales, " I know you ordered a Maverick almost 2 years ago, but no truck for you. We can't get them. You should have chosen a dealer with allocations. " /s
I don't understand allocations. No allocations = no truck? Looks like Ford can build all of the 23 roll overs. But it sounds like you won't get yours if your dealer has no allocations. Or you will just go in the lottery pool with the rest of the 24 orders. The never-ending merry-go-round. Not even a hint when or if you will get a truck.
I'm ranting a bit today.

 

[Shay]

I ordered a 2023 EcoBoost Tremor that has not been scheduled, and only another week or two before the clock runs out for me. I'm 99.9% sure that truck will ever be built.

My dealer told me shortly after I ordered it they had taken way more orders than they had allocations like most dealerships out there. Ford cut their allocations way back AFTER the order banks closed. So part of it is on the dealers, part of it is on Ford.

Whatever. I am passing on replacing it with a 2024 order. I will wait for what comes in a 2025 refresh or just keep my hybrid which has been the best performing business vehicle (in financial terms) I have ever had.

 

[Old Man]

Ford is saying they will make sure rollovers get built this year after the problems last year. Besides from what everybody is saying here nobody is going to order any new ones because of the price increases, No rear window, no Area 51 so sounds like all they will have to build is the 24,000 rollovers.

 

[Ranch]

Ford sales, " I know you ordered a Maverick almost 2 years ago, but no truck for you. We can't get them. You should have chosen a dealer with allocations. " /s
I don't understand allocations. No allocations = no truck? Looks like Ford can build all of the 23 roll overs. But it sounds like you won't get yours if your dealer has no allocations. Or you will just go in the lottery pool with the rest of the 24 orders. The never-ending merry-go-round. Not even a hint when or if you will get a truck.
I'm ranting a bit today.

Someone at Ford told you your dealer has zero allocations for MY24?

 

[KevCuRaoi]

I ordered a 2023 EcoBoost Tremor that has not been scheduled, and only another week or two before the clock runs out for me. I'm 99.9% sure that truck will ever be built.

My dealer told me shortly after I ordered it they had taken way more orders than they had allocations like most dealerships out there. Ford cut their allocations way back AFTER the order banks closed. So part of it is on the dealers, part of it is on Ford.

Whatever. I am passing on replacing it with a 2024 order. I will wait for what comes in a 2025 refresh or just keep my hybrid which has been the best performing business vehicle (in financial terms) I have ever had.

It was a mess last year! Ford didn't notify many (most?) dealers ahead of time last year about allocation numbers. And then they had to send out "adjusted" allocations a few weeks later. Most dealers had (too many) orders submitted before Ford sent out allocation estimates.

Thankfully, Ford did correct that this year. They send out allocation numbers for the year well ahead of time. And during the multiple "broadcasts" that they put on about 24 Maverick, they told who to contact if your dealership didn't have your allocation estimate.

So there is no excuse this year! (Unless the dealership has more rollovers than allocation...there is nothing that they can do about that now!)

 

[commadorebob]

It was a mess last year! Ford didn't notify many (most?) dealers ahead of time last year about allocation numbers. And then they had to send out "adjusted" allocations a few weeks later. Most dealers had (too many) orders submitted before Ford sent out allocation estimates.

Thankfully, Ford did correct that this year. They send out allocation numbers for the year well ahead of time. And during the multiple "broadcasts" that they put on about 24 Maverick, they told who to contact if your dealership didn't have your allocation estimate.

So there is no excuse this year! (Unless the dealership has more rollovers than allocation...there is nothing that they can do about that now!)

Might be the reason Ford hasn't closed the order banks yet. Dealers are doing the right thing with the right information.

 

[Scott Asheville]

Warning: Rant ahead...

Dealer allocations is the fact that auto insider journalists and OEMs like to sweep under the rug - think a sin of omission. There are tons of articles out there on how OEMs are becoming more Tesla-like with direct sales. But it's superficial BS. The nasty smelly thing under the rug is dealer allocations. It means zero fairness in how consumers who place an order receive that order based on their place in line. It's your place in line at that dealership (with constraints and allocations factored in), not your place in line on the global order list. You could be the 100th customer to place an order in the USA, but be the 100,000th to receive your Maverick - we have people like that on this forum.

It's inherently unfair and deceptive to consumers. You place your order day one. You watch tens of thousands of people who placed orders after you get the exact vehicle before you.

Hey, I have no dog in this fight. My Maverick has been sitting in my driveway for almost a year. But I hate deception. And the OEMs and the dealers and the automotive press are deceiving you about the fairness of the dealership allocation system. You can partly thank the politicians too - they've been bought and are in the pocket of the NADA. Legislators have passed zillions of anticompetitive state laws designed to help dealerships fleece your pocket and prevent true direct sales from OEMs.

End of rant.

 

[KevCuRaoi]

Might be the reason Ford hasn't closed the order banks yet. Dealers are doing the right thing with the right information.

I hope so! Ford did specifically tell dealers that they wouldn't need to close order banks if (at least most) dealers order w/in their estimated allocation.

 

[OleFordGuy]

I pretty much agree with your "rant". The sad thing is theirs members on this forum and elsewhere that have it in their head that because ford intends to give priority to their MY23 to MY24 rollover that theirs will get built before any new first time MY24 order, which is not reality in the allocations world, not to mention constraint items. Their will be brand new MY24 orders built and delivered before MY23 rollovers. If you've been on this forum for awhile, you've seen it happen over and over.

 

[commadorebob]

Warning: Rant ahead...

End of rant.

The alternative results in consumers getting nothing while flippers get orders as they have an economic incentive to slam the order banks (see: every other industry with scalpers). It is also unfair to smaller dealerships who might not have an army of staff able to slam the order banks the second it opens. You would end up with all of the Mavericks heading to Dallas and SoCal and nowhere else.

The allocation system is designed to at least allow every dealership the opportunity at having their orders fulfilled. There is a bit of a chicken-egg scenario where they need allocations of trucks to sell in order to earn allocations of trucks to sell. But even that is designed to ensure local dealership who can't move Mavericks aren't hogging all of the production, which is why the first allocations were based on their sales of a mix of similarly priced vehicles (Escape, Bronco Sport, etc.).

Ford likely cannot ever leave the dealer network. There is too much legacy law in place to protect it and Ford is not going to bother trying to change 50 different state laws.

While I completely understand the frustration (my dealership got pretty much all of their MY23 allocations fulfilled in the last two months), it's really griping at a brick wall. You may feel better, but the wall is still there.

 

[RobertD]

Glider, Your dealer is correct you should have picked another dealer - one with an open allocation. After 2 years of waiting, which might be a record wait time, you may want to call Ford and see if they can do anything and/or place an order with a good dealer that still has allocation available.

FYI, Ford will not and should not build trucks in the sequence that they are ordered by us. It would be silly to expect that. Ford considers many variables when assigning build order. Ford should be building them in batches of like or compatible units, this helps the assembly line go faster and quality to go up. We had or have chip problems as well as the supply chains for everything else have broke down and getting all the parts needed in time is not happening like it should, So Ford has many variables to consider when determining which truck gets built in what order.

 

[realshelby]

No one "rants" about allocations when the industry is running normally. The system has worked well for decades. While it is easy to blame Ford, the insiders know this is all on Dealers.
It is true that some mega stores have advantages. Most here have NO idea how much work it takes to correctly input orders as quickly as possible when in a situation like the Maverick is presented.
Dealers had an idea of how many Mavericks they could actually expect. But just kept on taking orders. There is NO recourse on them for doing that, so why not.....maybe they get lucky.
What isn't brought up enough...is why your Dealer has so few allocations? Well, it might just be they are not all that good at selling and servicing Ford products.

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