I was on a regular route,
At night,
No traffic,
90% Empty Interstate,
2000 Toyota Tacoma,
Average cargo load 200-300 pounds.
194,000 miles later the wear bar made contact with the pavement.

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I was on a regular route,
At night,
No traffic,
90% Empty Interstate,
2000 Toyota Tacoma,
Average cargo load 200-300 pounds.
194,000 miles later the wear bar made contact with the pavement.

thanks for weighing in!Discount Tire does not sell round tires. I am convinced they peddle blemished tires at this point. Id buy from Costco, walmart, Amazon, Ebay, Eloy the Elote street corn vendor.... anywhere but @Discounttire
Discount: The maverick is a truck, roadforce under 40 is fine.
Discount: No we didnt add hub centric rings because my tech didnt say we needed them.
Discount: Sorry, New tech he mounted your CC2s the wrong direction. (2 of them)
Discount: Oh yeah, we rebalanced them and 2 of them were off by at least .75oz (drove 10 miles/returned)
Discount: sorry we put in the wrong TPMS sensors ( they were supposed to be swapped over from old wheels)...
Discount is a joke. Used to be fantastic, but the new generation is lazy and the Managers cant do it all themselves.
and sorry for the aweful experience you had ugh!Discount Tire does not sell round tires. I am convinced they peddle blemished tires at this point. Id buy from Costco, walmart, Amazon, Ebay, Eloy the Elote street corn vendor.... anywhere but @Discounttire
Discount: The maverick is a truck, roadforce under 40 is fine.
Discount: No we didnt add hub centric rings because my tech didnt say we needed them.
Discount: Sorry, New tech he mounted your CC2s the wrong direction. (2 of them)
Discount: Oh yeah, we rebalanced them and 2 of them were off by at least .75oz (drove 10 miles/returned)
Discount: sorry we put in the wrong TPMS sensors ( they were supposed to be swapped over from old wheels)...
Discount is a joke. Used to be fantastic, but the new generation is lazy and the Managers cant do it all themselves.
thanks! We might take a look at the PirellisMy 2026 Factory Tremor Tires.
Are,
OUTSTANDING!
They are
Goodyear Territory R/T All Terrain
235/65R17
New tread depth 14/32
The Goodyear Wrangler Territory R/T All Terrain in size 235/65R17 weighs between 29 to 29.56 pounds. This makes it a notably lightweight option for an all-terrain tire, allowing drivers to upgrade their tread without significantly adding unsprung weight to their vehicle.
These ATās are super smooth and quiet just like good all season tires.
The Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 in size 235/65R17 weighs between 29.7 and 30 pounds. They were far better than any Michelin Iāve ever had.
Betcha Iāve logged more miles on Michelins than most.
194,000 highway miles on ONE set of the old Sears models. I forget the model code.
Hands down win with the Pirelliās. They are simply far more advanced in every category.
thanks for the information on the 2ās. They have a good rating. I just wasnāt sure what we would be giving up and the wildpeak 3ās would be an onlyMichelin Defender 2s on my 2025 Tremor. I don't go off road. When I bought the truck the all terrain tires were quite loud and were replaced in the first week of ownership. The Defender 2s are comparable in ratings on Tire Rack to the Cross Climates. I went with the Defender 2s because of the increased tread depth, longer warranty and lower price. They performed extremely well in snow this past winter.
thanks thatās good to know! They are rated well for that but I was not sure since no experience with the tire.Michelin Defender 2s on my 2025 Tremor. I don't go off road. When I bought the truck the all terrain tires were quite loud and were replaced in the first week of ownership. The Defender 2s are comparable in ratings on Tire Rack to the Cross Climates. I went with the Defender 2s because of the increased tread depth, longer warranty and lower price. They performed extremely well in snow this past winter.
above the rated number of miles so time to replace. If we did any off road and the wildpeak a/t 3ās were readily available we would put them on again.That doesnāt speak well for those tires which are highly regarded. How many miles?
yea. Needed to time the replacement for a sale..Check with Costco. Once I factored in the warranty, Costco beat the others. Plus I'd rather wander around Costco killing time than a tire shop.
Michelin go on sale at Costco roughly every other month.
we got well over the rated miles for the falcons that came with the truck and think they performed really well!That doesnāt speak well for those tires which are highly regarded. How many miles?
PSI?I was on a regular route,
At night,
No traffic,
90% Empty Interstate,
2000 Toyota Tacoma,
Average cargo load 200-300 pounds.
194,000 miles later the wear bar made contact with the pavement. This was done in just over two years.
Tacoma door plate said I think 33PSI?
Only 1100 miles so far but those do impress me also!My 2026 Factory Tremor Tires.
Are,
OUTSTANDING!
They are
Goodyear Territory R/T All Terrain
235/65R17
New tread depth 14/32
The Goodyear Wrangler Territory R/T All Terrain in size 235/65R17 weighs between 29 to 29.56 pounds. This makes it a notably lightweight option for an all-terrain tire, allowing drivers to upgrade their tread without significantly adding unsprung weight to their vehicle.
These ATās are super smooth and quiet just like good all season tires.
The Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 in size 235/65R17 weighs between 29.7 and 30 pounds. They were far better than any Michelin Iāve ever had.
Betcha Iāve logged more miles on Michelins than most.
194,000 highway miles on ONE set of the old Sears models. I forget the model code.
Hands down win with the Pirelliās. They are simply far more advanced in every category.
Considering Michelin Cross Climate 2ās
Also wondering where best to buy them?
Owner of the truck is retired military
Our 23 still has the factory continentals at 46 k with decent tread left. They have been great in our northern michigan winters. I will go with them again unless they are to pricey.We need to replace tires on our 24 Maverick Tremor edition. Generally have been happy with the Wildpeak AT 3ās that came on it but since we currently donāt go off-road but do deal with snow, ice, rain etc wondering experiences other 24 owners had with other tires.
Considering Michelin Cross Climate 2ās
Also wondering where best to buy them?
Owner of the truck is retired military
Yeah, people who drive reasonably get the rated mileage or better out of the factory tires. People with a heavy foot or on really bad road quality eat them up and then complain very loudly about crummy factory tires, when the real problem is the nut behind the steering wheel.Our 23 still has the factory continentals at 46 k with decent tread left. They have been great in our northern michigan winters. I will go with them again unless they are to pricey.
Not true. The OEM version of say a Falken Wildpeak that came on my Tremor were gone at just under 30k They mass produce tires for the OEM's that have less tread depth and designed to be quiet.Yeah, people who drive reasonably get the rated mileage or better out of the factory tires. People with a heavy foot or on really bad road quality eat them up and then complain very loudly about crummy factory tires, when the real problem is the nut behind the steering wheel.
While tires certainly can make a difference it is the diver who ultimately determines how their vehicle responds in snow. If you think you can drive it in winter exactly how you drive it in summer it doesnāt matter much which tires you have.Our 23 still has the factory continentals at 46 k with decent tread left. They have been great in our northern michigan winters. I will go with them again unless they are to pricey.
I installed BF GOODRICH 235/65R17 BSW 104H OE KIA from Costco. I like them so far. I don't feel anything was given up on wet or dry pavement traction. I do have some concerns about hydroplaning if in heavy water due to the outer tread blocks being a solid row. I think there has been a slight decrease in mileage. Ride quality is better, but I went from 18" to 17" wheels so there is a little more sidewall. They are also pretty quiet, I can hear a faint amount of tire hum at low speeds when decelerating.Any thoughts on the BFG Trail Terrain? I'm not ready yet...but I would go with stock size for my XLT Hybrid. I did look at the weight, and there are heavier tires. Just wondering if they would be anyone's choice. Thanks.
I'm personally not a fan of tires with solid outer tread bands because water can't be evacuated out the sides. But if the reviews say the wet traction is great then my point is moot.Any thoughts on the BFG Trail Terrain? I'm not ready yet...but I would go with stock size for my XLT Hybrid. I did look at the weight, and there are heavier tires. Just wondering if they would be anyone's choice. Thanks.
Well, discarding the AI bullshit statement, I measured my Michelin Primacies against aftermarket Primacies. Both were about 9/32nds, and easily wear to their rated distance of 60k. Like I said, it's mostly about how hard you drive.Not true. The OEM version of say a Falken Wildpeak that came on my Tremor were gone at just under 30k They mass produce tires for the OEM's that have less tread depth and designed to be quiet.
Google- Key differences between the two include:
- Design and Tweaks: Automakers collaborate with tire companies to optimize OEM tires for fuel economy, cabin quietness, or dry handling. Aftermarket tires focus on broader goals like extended tread life or balanced all-season traction.
- Tread Depth: OEM tires often have slightly shallower tread depths right out of the box, which improves handling and fuel economy but can result in a shorter lifespan.
- Warranties: Aftermarket tires usually come with a manufacturer's mileage warranty. OEM tires supplied from the factory typically do not come with a treadwear warranty.
- Specialized Markings: OEM tires frequently have special stamps indicating the car brand they were tuned for (e.g., a star for BMW, "T" for Tesla, or "N0" for Porsche).