Does Anyone Drive an EB Infrequently and for Short Trips With No Battery Charge Issues?

[Gschaef]

I am not expert just a theory from gathering info from various sources.
Ford considers the battery fully charged at 80% or ~12.45v. This likely means that if you charge to 100% using a charger, while driving little to no charging will occur since BMS sees battery above 80%. So you will deplete from your 100% charged down to 80% rather fast.

Regardless, I think putting it on a charger is a good idea, though might seem like a waste of time based on my statement above but anytime an acid battery is not at 100% you being the process of sulfation which over time causes loss of capacity.

think of trickle charging as "conditioning" your battery.

Thank you. Makes perfect sense.

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[Jeff D.]

I won't disagree with those that feel a battery tender shouldn't be needed. We shouldn't have to plug a new vehicle in to have the battery last 3, 4, 5 years or more.

Then again, there's alot of things in life we shouldn't have to do, but we do it anyways because it's easier than living with the consequences of not doing it, and fixing the real problem is not something that's often within our reach.

So, I will plug my Maverick into a battery tender whenever I park it in the garage. It's not that hard to do. I do believe my battery will last much longer because I've been doing this already and my batteries have lasted longer than expected.

Harley Davidson recommends plugging their motorcycles in whenever they're not being used. They've been recommending this for years. I've a 2014 motorycle that still has the original battery.

If I'm wrong, I can't see much in the way of negative consequences for doing what I'm doing?

Not much of a solution, though, to those that park on the street and don't have the same opprotunity to plug in.

 

[Montana]

I have about 1800 miles on my 2023 ecoboost with AGM. Only problem is the start/stop not working unless I put it on the battery tender- no problems with starting or features including heated seats and steering wheel. I do a lot of short trips typically but get on the freeway for a few miles most weeks.

Does the remote start still work? Not talking about from the app, from the keyfob.

Many times before I uninstalled the app after removing my vehicle it would tell me remote start was disabled, but it always worked form the key fob.

 

[23grayXLT84]

I won't disagree with those that feel a battery tender shouldn't be needed. We shouldn't have to plug a new vehicle in to have the battery last 3, 4, 5 years or more.

Then again, there's alot of things in life we shouldn't have to do, but we do it anyways because it's easier than living with the consequences of not doing it, and fixing the real problem is not something that's often within our reach.

So, I will plug my Maverick into a battery tender whenever I park it in the garage. It's not that hard to do. I do believe my battery will last much longer because I've been doing this already and my batteries have lasted longer than expected.

Harley Davidson recommends plugging their motorcycles in whenever they're not being used. They've been recommending this for years. I've a 2014 motorycle that still has the original battery.

If I'm wrong, I can't see much in the way of negative consequences for doing what I'm doing?

Not much of a solution, though, to those that park on the street and don't have the same opprotunity to plug in.

Your hood looks closed. Where do you store the connector ?

I been thinking of adding a charge port either in the bed, side XLT badge or.... ? I hate opening the hood.

 

[Jeff D.]

Your hood looks closed. Where do you store the connector ?

I been thinking of adding a charge port either in the bed, side XLT badge or.... ? I hate opening the hood.

I ran it out the space between the fender and the headlight. There's a big enough space that the wires aren't pinched. I leave it hang out a couple inches, like it is, all the time.

 

[paneubert]

Mine is at 12.2V as of about half an hour ago. Has not been driven since yesterday.

I put my NOCO 5 on it around 5 PM. Initial reading was the "25% charged" light level. Did not stick around to see if it jumped to 50% shortly after or not. Will leave it overnight and see what it reads at about 8 AM. That will be at about 15 hours on the trickle charger.

Last time I did this I connected directly to the positive and negative posts of the battery (between the BMS and the negative post). 13.1V right after I disconnected it about 12 hours later (did not wait for it to claim it was done), 12.75V the next morning (no usage between, so more of true value of the actual battery voltage), 12.55V about 24 hours later after I did a couple really short drives.

This time I connected to the positive terminal, but instead of putting negative between the BMS and battery, I connected the negative of the NOCO 5 to the "Ground" post that is bolted to the frame and has a wire running to the BMS and then the negative battery post. I am curious to see if this results in any different charging profile or final voltage/charge. Will the BMS throttle the NOCO 5 so that the battery only charges to 80%? Or will the NOCO 5 keep pumping juice until it feels the battery is charged to 100%. We will see......

Been about 3 hours. NOCO 5 is already at "100%" charge (means it is done with the bulk phase) and is slow flashing green, which is the final touches to get it to actual 100%.

Will leave it overnight and test the voltage with NOCO 5 still connected, then right after disconnect, then a couple hours later for an actual accurate reading.

 

[Sounder206]

Mine only has 1600 miles since purchase back in June and driven on an average of 20-30 miles each weekend. It sits for the rest of the week while I daily commute my other vehicle. So far no battery issues, but I’ll have to drive it more often.

 

[B2000]

I ran it out the space between the fender and the headlight. There's a big enough space that the wires aren't pinched. I leave it hang out a couple inches, like it is, all the time.

I did the same thing. The battery tender harness was too short so I got a 12" SAE extension from Amazon. BT sells one but it is 6' long which is way too much.

If you try to run it lower the movable shutters might not work correctly.

 

[B2000]

Does the remote start still work? Not talking about from the app, from the keyfob.

Many times before I uninstalled the app after removing my vehicle it would tell me remote start was disabled, but it always worked form the key fob.

I never use the remote start but will try it this weekend. I have had no problems starting or with any other functions. I can use the heated seats and steering wheel right after start.

 

[Montana]

I never use the remote start but will try it this weekend. I have had no problems starting or with any other functions. I can use the heated seats and steering wheel right after start.

How about interior lighting when you enter after remote starting. Apparently that's a thing too...

 

[blu23]

We've got a '22 XLT EB with the AGM style battery. We've had it for just over a year and the mileage is just over 4,100. It is driven once or twice a week and most trips are less than 20 miles. There is no battery tender used and so far there are no problems with starting the Mav when it is needed. No messages or anything. Now that I've said all that I've probably just put a curse on myself and will start to get some grief from the truck.

 

[Packer Bill]

For me (Ecoboost), it was 1 years, 10 months before I received my first "battery saving mode" message.

 

[Smitty]

what is the diffences of floode and agm batteries? Also what is the norm battery voltage?

 

[Ozarkbeard]

what is the diffe[re]nces of floode[d] and agm batteries?

https://www.crownbattery.com/news/agm-vs-flooded-batteries-what-you-need-to-know

 

[Smitty]

Thank You, good article

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