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[HeyBales]

I'm driving a 23-year-old Crown Vic that I haven't treated in years and the seals are still fine.

Oh no. This is all wrong.
They probably only look fine and appear to operate correctly but I'm sure your doors are ready to fall off.

Every spring (since silicon degrades) or 2500 door open/close sequences (since it rubs off) you need to wipe off the old silicon completely with mineral spirits, and the metal side with water, and apply a new 90% silicon gel to all the creases and crevices in the seals everywhere.
That's the only way to keep your doors in shape to close.

Please don't say you have no door check holder routine!

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[icegradner]

Is that 5k of ICE miles or 5K total? That's the kind of thing that dumb little algorithm can keep track of.

Just 5k on the ODO. Way to many variables to worry about ICE on and off time. I haul sometimes close to payload, I tow a camping trailer, and drive mostly in city traffic. The owners manual specific recommends 5k miles changes for these very scenarios. My changes are once every 7-9 months, that's more than long enough between changes.

 

[Blue_Max]

Oh no. This is all wrong.
They probably only look fine and appear to operate correctly but I'm sure your doors are ready to fall off.

Every spring (since silicon degrades) or 2500 door open/close sequences (since it rubs off) you need to wipe off the old silicon completely with mineral spirits, and the metal side with water, and apply a new 90% silicon gel to all the creases and crevices in the seals everywhere.
That's the only way to keep your doors in shape to close.

Please don't say you have no door check holder routine!

Is there a YouTube channel I could like and follow that shows me how to do that?

 

[BAScott62]

Just 5k on the ODO. Way to many variables to worry about ICE on and off time. I haul sometimes close to payload, I tow a camping trailer, and drive mostly in city traffic. The owners manual specific recommends 5k miles changes for these very scenarios. My changes are once every 7-9 months, that's more than long enough between changes.

Fair point, why not every 4K and 6 months just to be safe?

 

[HeyBales]

Is there a YouTube channel I could like and follow that shows me how to do that?

Start here to learn about the proper oil & grease that is the only way to go!

https://www.fulcrumwheels.com/en/blog-detail/cult-45-minutes

 

[HeyBales]

I've gone too far - haven't I?

 

[icegradner]

Fair point, why not every 4K and 6 months just to be safe?

That's kind of the variable part, the extreme cases are rare, but just enough to lean on the safe side of the 5k changes. Most of the time I'm just loaded with myself and maybe 100 pounds of tools.

 

[AVC]

I have this stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/nextzett-91480615-Gummi-Pflege-Rubber/dp/B004B8GTQG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3J6SE3M38MASQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.9Ri_ldUy2JEdm0g0Zuph_ho2aDM-a1pdP9r2C7juLjLGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.EabL7D_o8NCoKWsa9TUtIVxUYiC-oyylaQvL-1memO8&dib_tag=se&keywords=gummi+fledge+stift&qid=1729695510&sprefix=gummi+fl,aps,107&sr=8-1&th=1

Astroglide silcone is also quite effective. I won't post the blush-worthy Amazon link.

 

[Blue_Max]

I've gone too far - haven't I?

Potential door seal deterioration is the least of my worries on a 23-year-old car that I should mostly stop driving once my Maverick is delivered.

 

[HeyBales]

Potential door seal deterioration is the least of my worries on a 23-year-old car that I should mostly stop driving once my Maverick is delivered.

I meant too far on the whole cult of oils/grease thing.

Sorry to anyone about to tell me stop derailing!

 

[Blue_Max]

I meant too far on the whole cult of oils/grease thing.

Sorry to anyone about to tell me stop derailing!

This whole topic is too far on the cult for me, hence my initial post in the topic.

 

[Bosquebass]

I've gone too far - haven't I?

Naaa....See my post above about entertainment.

 

[TonyS]

IMHO, a near meaningless video. I don't care about what color the internal parts they examined are. The REAL point is under their test conditions, BOTH engines went 500,000 miles. Far, FAR more than what the overwhelming majority will put on their vehicles. For this video to be meaningful they would have torn down the engines and 'speced out every single part. The engine doesn't care and IIDC what color parts are.

In my family, the highest mileage vehicle is a 2011 Ford Escape, 2.5L four with 283,000 miles. All oil changes have been conventional oil. ALWAYS at/near 5.000 miles

This isn't rocket science - at least not for consumers. Change your oil every 5,000 miles unless you operate under really extreme conditions. Ignore the 10,000 mile idea and don't do 3,000 miles unless driving conditions are harsh. Say maybe mostly towing. It doesn't matter if the oil is conventional, semi synthetic or full synthetic. Just change regularly at a reasonable interval.

As a practical matter - today - it' is actually getting difficult to find conventional motor oil. My local Ford dealer offers synthetic blend near exclusively. I have to go to Valvoline to get a conventional oil change.

Just change your oil and filter on schedule without fail. Jeez but this is not complicated.....

 

[Blinky]

I love #4
Don't forget. They've been doing something for 40 years and nothing's happened, so it must be right, even if it isn't.

"I've been smoking for 45 years and only cough for 20-30 minutes when I wake up but there's nothing wrong with a pack a day, if only it wasn't so durn expensive *cough cough* Hah, my hourly cough, guess that's a sign to light up another one...."

Yes, I know someone who said almost exactly this.

 

[14mikey14]

Motor oil is one subject that everyone has an opinion on...me included.

Some of you may have visited the site BITOG..
BOB IS THE OIL GUY. Man if you want misinformation and non fact based opinion that joint is fir you.

If you want REAL oil info from a guy that actually formulated oils in the real world visit Lake Speed Jr's. "motoroilgeek" YouTube page.

I attended one of Speed's oil seminars about 10 years ago when he worked for Driven oil. Learned a bunch... no sales pitches's only facts.

A stand up guy...yes he IS a geek!

Watch and learn...

The biggest factor I have learned is we need to be concerned with is having oil shear kill our engines. All these chains, sprokets and gears in the valve train destroy the additive packages that keep our oils in spec.

I grew up learning that oil doesn't wear out...but the additive package does.

You will have to pack a lunch, sit down with your internet device and watch these videos several times to really absorb what is being presented.

My last Peterbilt with a CAT 3406E engine went 1,918,000 miles before it's first rebuild. I always used a viscosity index improver additive to the oil as matter or habit. Now I think I know why that engine lasted so long.

Enjoy the info...

Yes to the Motor Oil Geek!! Learned so much from watching his videos. Based on data, evidence, and science. Everyone should watch his videos.

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