When to do 1st first oil change? 2024 XLT Hybrid

[svogt302]

Changed my Hybrid @4K after a round trip NJ to FLA jaunt.... Planning on 5K intervals.
The Ford oil monitor is just a 'timer' & I don't take it seriously.

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[1929]

Something worth considering if you plan on keeping your Mav for quite awhile…Check out an expert’s opinion below:

What does the expert recommend?

 

[1929]

Changed my Hybrid @4K after a round trip NJ to FLA jaunt.... Planning on 5K intervals.
The Ford oil monitor is just a 'timer' & I don't take it seriously.

4k and 5k are just "timers". Why do you take them seriously?

I'll trust intelligent oil life monitor. Monitoring sensor data and using an algorithm. I'll trust science and data.

 

[LSchicago]

I usually do first change at 1,000 miles on Non-Hybrids. I did the first on my hybrid at 3,800, and second at 12,000. I don't want to use the recommended 10K interval. 8K is enough for me.

 

[FamousAmos]

To not follow the advice of internet experts. ;-)

I go along with Als, and will add one thing. People seem to think that, if they change oil and their oil is clean, they should have let it go longer. Personally, I would rather it be clean than look like tar. Since I retired and my mileage is much less, my rule of thumb is to change oil ANNUALLY, regardless of the mileage on the oil. Chacun a son gout.

 

[Marine Vet]

What does the expert recommend?

Check out his video. It’s not that long.

 

[CajunMick]

Just dId oil change, at 1,2XX miles. That after oil sample report from Blackstone. As usual, report reveals metals and silicon, which Blackstone reporting not unusual from a new engine going thru break in period. The only alarm is viscosity…it was low. Likewise, pull sample from wife’s Escape, and it too has low viscosity. I inquired with Blackstone if it makes any difference if sample drawn from engine at ambient temperature, which I did, or shall it be warmed up. Blackstone stated no matter, they check viscosity with sampled oil heated to 210 degrees.

I elected to use blended oil this change, drive 4-5,000 miles, do another sample, and if good numbers, do, go the full synthetic route. May be a while, cause it seems I’m averaging 200 mikes per month driving this thing. The Lowes store is only 4.9 miles from home. Garden center not much further, lol. Wife…you understand?

 

[svogt302]

4k and 5k are just "timers". Why do you take them seriously?

I'll trust intelligent oil life monitor. Monitoring sensor data and using an algorithm. I'll trust science and data.

To each their own.....
I periodically send a sample to a lab & have it tested..... Waiting for the results.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

...The Ford oil monitor is just a 'timer' & I don't take it seriously...

I wouldn't take the above post by svogt302 seriously because it is simply not true.

The intelligent Oil Life Monitor takes a lot of things into consideration. For instance, in a Hybrid, it tracks how many miles the gasoline engine has run. That could be half of the miles of an ecoboost engine has run, given the same ODO reading. How much stop & go or highway miles are also considered in the calcs. And if you don't drive much at all, the OLM will notify you to change the oil around a year, due to the age of the oil.

OP: If you're wanting to do the first oil change now, go ahead. After that, you can safely follow the on-screen Oil Life Monitor. Unless you like wasting money on oil, filters & time.

 

[mav47]

Can you explain to me what you think an oil filter does?

The engine oil filter grabs particles from the engine oil sized down to roughly 30 micron, while missing smaller particles which are simply passing through the filter media. Some of these stay suspended in the oil and some will fall out of suspension somewhere.

Especially during the first couple of thousand miles the engine oil will collect lots of particulate junk, so an early oil change makes sense to me.

 

[tom_tucker]

I just drove 21 miles, 14 on electric. Right now I'm 7500 but after 5 years (Ford plan) I'll be changing every 10k with full synthetic.

 

[LSchicago]

I go along with Als, and will add one thing. People seem to think that, if they change oil and their oil is clean, they should have let it go longer. Personally, I would rather it be clean than look like tar. Since I retired and my mileage is much less, my rule of thumb is to change oil ANNUALLY, regardless of the mileage on the oil. Chacun a son gout.

That would depend how much you drive. This works on my Mustang, but not the Maverick (12K in 7 months)

 

[stevj]

Can you explain to me what you think an oil filter does?

The engine oil filter grabs particles from the engine oil sized down to roughly 30 micron, while missing smaller particles which are simply passing through the filter media. Some of these stay suspended in the oil and some will fall out of suspension somewhere.

Especially during the first couple of thousand miles the engine oil will collect lots of particulate junk, so an early oil change makes sense to me.

Also, something not often mentioned in these threads: the oil filter has a bypass valve.
When the oil is cold (cold engine) or is being pushed at a greater volume than dirty filter medium can pass, the valve opens to allow oil to bypass the filter medium. This maintains proper volume of oil under pressure to the engine.

Steve

 

[surfstar]

Oil filters are either correctly sized to capture harmful contaminants, or engines have just been shredding themselves apart, as most owners follow the manual / reminder for maintenance.

Which is correct?

 

[ShadowBlack XL440]

To remove most of the break-in particles from the engine oil circulation circuit I would recommend changing the factory oil after 1,000-2,000 miles, which is when the main break-in has already happened. I did my hybrid at 1,600 miles.

I stick to a roughly 6,500 mile interval thereafter. I don't think those much longer intervals are good for any engine.

Also: I'll change the transaxle fluid somewhere in the 50k-60k range (i.e. soon in my case). This is about as simple as an engine oil change. We have had Toyota hybrids for years and after changing the transaxle fluid you can actually notice the difference. These fluids don't last and perform as long as people seem to think.

When you performed your 1st oil change at 1600 miles, did you find much for break-in particles? I found more aluminum particles in my 2022 EB but more gold (copper) particles in my 2024 Hybrid. Should I be concerned or do I need to pan this gold to cover a new bottom end? I am sure the next oil change will tell the story. Not really concerned while it is still under warranty.

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