Would you buy an EV maverick for 25-30k?

[RobbieAG]

I wouldn't be interested in Maverick EV for 25 - 30k. I'm not interested in EVs in general for many reasons. I particularly dislike how they're being forced on us by Govts. Maybe if someone sold a local runabout for 5 - 10k, I'd consider it. That's very unlikely due to safety regs etc. For a used Leaf or something like it, you'd have to confirm the battery had plenty of life left in it - if it needed replacing, the car is a throwaway.

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[OleFordGuy]

Absolutely Not.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

The issue with EV design (actually ICE as well, but more so EV) is vehicle operation dependent upon the infotainment system. Many vehicles built 20 years ago are still very capable. Few, if any, vehicles with all the electronic gadgetry will still be on the road in 2044. Hit like if you have a vehicle over 20 years old.

Good sir, infotainment systems have been around since the early 2000s. There are 20 year old cars with infotainment systems that are working just fine.

 

[710-oil-614]

Normally I wouldn't believe it, but considering they're basically saying the future of the auto industry is dependant on being able to counter Chinese brands, it sounds like they're taking it seriously.

But why would you trust a company that said, "we're going to build it for $40k" and it costs $53k.

Or the company that promised the "under $20k" hybrid pick up (that was never under $20k with destination)....which now goes for $26,910 (including destination)

And then they say, "we're going to build an electric truck for $25k"....

You can bet it is going to cost at least 30% more than whatever Ford claims based on their recent track record.

 

[Wojty]

30k electric maverick? Shut up and take my money.

I’m a carpenter who puts 20, maybe 30 miles on my truck any given week. Not paying for gas ever again, and being able to charge/run tools off the truck would be lovely. The f150 lightning was appealing, but too big both in size and price.

 

[dalola]

A BEV Maverick for $25-30K sounds interesting, but I would need to see the full spec sheet before committing.

No different than when the Mav was launched in '22..... Hey look, a new hybrid truck for $19,995! It ended up being a much more complex story, but a success none-the-less.

The devil is in the details.

 

[LSchicago]

Curious where they'd put the big battery. And what theyd strip out to get down to 30k. I like my mav so far but sometime I'm like "oh... no hood lifts that's.. something" there's a lot of really thoughtful design but now and then something missing.

So somebody goes and shows you a base model XL no options and tells you
"Find another 5k to remove so we can fit a 10000 dollar electric battery."

Like what has to go then?

The fully dressed gas engine, Catalytic converter, Gas tank and pump, whole exhaust system, Radiator, etc. Should be fairly close.

 

[Bob The Builder]

.....and the devil may be coming from the other side of the world.

Those looking for a low cost BEV just be patient. BYD (China) is now poised to flood the market with ultra low cost basically disposable electric cars. Once approved for sale here, the games will begin.

 

[LSchicago]

I wouldn't be interested in Maverick EV for 25 - 30k. I'm not interested in EVs in general for many reasons. I particularly dislike how they're being forced on us by Govts. Maybe if someone sold a local runabout for 5 - 10k, I'd consider it. That's very unlikely due to safety regs etc. For a used Leaf or something like it, you'd have to confirm the battery had plenty of life left in it - if it needed replacing, the car is a throwaway.

You might find a nice USED electric golf cart for that.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Our first house was three bedroom, one bath, one car garage. $7800.
You couldn't build the garage for that today.
First new car was a 1966 VW Beetle. $2002.16, with sunroof, gauge package and tach.
Everything goes up and nobody goes anywhere. It's like riding an elevator where the whole building goes up and down with you.
I found my parents in an old US Census listing. They were making $624 a YEAR! Yes, $12 a week. It's all relative. Just hope you have rich relatives.

Yeah those older generations definitely had it

But why would you trust a company that said, "we're going to build it for $40k" and it costs $53k.

Or the company that promised the "under $20k" hybrid pick up (that was never under $20k with destination)....which now goes for $26,910 (including destination)

And then they say, "we're going to build an electric truck for $25k"....

You can bet it is going to cost at least 30% more than whatever Ford claims based on their recent track record.

In Ford's defense, they admitted their first gen EVs weren't cost efficient. Hence the price increases on things like lightning. I'm fairly certain the mach-e has actually had price cuts. That's a sporty lifestyle midsized crossover that starts at just over 40k.

If Ford can offer that for a reasonable price, I can see them eventually being able to break into the 30s and 20s with the right platforms. Ford has openly stated these second and third gen EV platforms will save them billions of dollars over the current platforms due to being far more optimized for EV production. Not millions, billions with a B.

Not to mention a major part of Ford's strategy is looking into smaller, more affordable battery packs. Saving money there as well. Finally, the people close to these programs in ford are saying the top hats, aka the body work, and other parts on these EVs will be the same as the ICE maverick and bronco sport, so they're saving hundreds of millions of dollars there. The maverick and bronco have already made back their tooling costs, so using the same body work essentially means you're getting a free body for these new EVs.

Also keep in mind the head engineer who worked on this was the lead engineer on the Tesla model 3, one of the most revolutionary cars in recent years, he's one of the best engineers for bringing this kind of product to market. So yeah, one the surface, the price figure seems too good to be true. But once you start to dig into the details, it's like, ok, they could actually pull this off.

 

[The-X]

The fully dressed gas engine, Catalytic converter, Gas tank and pump, whole exhaust system, Radiator, etc. Should be fairly close.

Well no,
Because I'm going by the fact electrics tend to add a lot on top of the model theyre going electric from.

So that price difference removing the gas related component array is already accounted for in the increase. So to keep the 25k base model under 30k you need to cut another 5k roughly off the other components to reach the target.

Otherwise you're looking at 35k base price for a maverick EV with the same build as the "entry level" maverick but for the price of a decked out XLT. This price also still includes subsidies. like others had mentioned they tried a price point with the F150 and didnt hit it. Withouta massive breakthrough in battery tech, that's just the rub is those batteries snd hardened tires cost a lot

 

[710-oil-614]

I'm fairly certain the mach-e has actually had price cuts. That's a sporty lifestyle midsized crossover that starts at just over 40k.

Mach E Select (base) goes for $44,690 after destination - that's quite a bit over $40k and that Mach E has about a 200 mile range.

 

[Bob The Builder]

Ford needs to figure out how to stop bleeding billions on their EV side of the business, but management does not seem to care as the ICE side is doing gangbusters with the profit margin and carrying the water for the rest of the business.

However, the shareholders very well may not continue to be as enthusiastic as management. All the ideology aside, it always and always eventually comes down to the color of the ink.

 

[BuddyS]

Seems pointless to me. Are you running a delivery service or something? Maybe have a daily commute with tools? I really don't get the electric car fad, at least as a new car. 25-30k doesn't seem good to me. Use to see used Nissan Leafs sell for 5k all day long.

Bring your price down about 5 fold and then we're talking. We don't value electric vehicles like you people do.

I just did a quick search for a $5k Leaf. Lowest price was $12K for a 2018. that's about a 50% depreciation hit over 5/6 years, which isn't terribly uncommon. I bet the Maverick holds about 60-65% over that time frame. And Leafs are admittedly the basic end of EV cars as far as features and range, so they're probably as "disposable" as cars get.

Still, I think a Maverick EV for about $25K would be great for a lot -- but not all -- people. A lot of people would be thrilled to not pay for $100 in gas every month.

I also doubt electric costs will go up due to demand. Think of all the homes and businesses that rely on electricity for everything else -- lights, heat, AC, etc. If anything, utilities will finally see the ROI in renewable sources that they can use to sell even more Kw at lower production costs.

 

[tom_tucker]

Mach E Select (base) goes for $44,690 after destination - that's quite a bit over $40k and that Mach E has about a 200 mile range.

200 mile range is plum pitiful. I rented a 2011 Hyundai Sonata that's worth $4,469. Drove it 600 miles on a tank. 1/10th the price, 3x the range

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