No Plans for Plug-In Hybrid (PHEV) Maverick Says Mike Levine

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I just want an AWD Hybrid!!!!!

Same.

I would be very interested in a hypothetical PHEV AWD 2024 Tacoma, though.

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[NextTruck]

PHEV aren't as efficient as we would think they "should" be.

They also run on mostly coal and natural gas (think where electricity is generated). I understand that the emissions are also largely over stated as they are based on the emissions of an engine at normal operating temperature. Quite often, hybrid engines are not operating that way because they start and stop. Over short distances, the engine does not, or takes a long time, to reach temperature and therefore have higher emissions. Has anyone heard this before?

 

[NextTruck]

They also run on mostly coal and natural gas (think where electricity is generated). I understand that the emissions are also largely over stated as they are based on the emissions of an engine at normal operating temperature. Quite often, hybrid engines are not operating that way because they start and stop. Over short distances, the engine does not, or takes a long time, to reach temperature and therefore have higher emissions. Has anyone heard this before?

 

[PriusHater]

As someone that already has level 2 charging for an EV at the house, I would love a PHEV option for the Maverick with a 30-60 mile EV only range.

 

[MsMezmereyes]

PHEV aren't as efficient as we would think they "should" be.

I read an article breaking down the 3 different Toyota Rav4 vehicles- the regular, Hybrid, PHEV. Money-wise the PHEV was the worst of all of them, (by a few Thousand $$ over 5 years) when considering purchase price and gas money spent. PLUS the PHEV usually have to compromise storage space somewhere for that extra battery.

They said the hybrid was the best.

Idk. I have a phev and with rebates it was less expensive than a lower equipped ICE version. I can get 2000-2400 Km per tank of gas, I do lose some trunk space because it’s an older style battery, but there is no loss of cargo with the modern ones in The escape PHEV for example. I for one would love a PHEV version of the maverick.

 

[LSchicago]

They also run on mostly coal and natural gas (think where electricity is generated). I understand that the emissions are also largely over stated as they are based on the emissions of an engine at normal operating temperature. Quite often, hybrid engines are not operating that way because they start and stop. Over short distances, the engine does not, or takes a long time, to reach temperature and therefore have higher emissions. Has anyone heard this before?

Maybe in your state it's mostly coal and natural gas, but not mine. My state is 54% Nuclear, and 10% renewables.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Agree with everything Levine said. The FWD maverick hybrid is a great vehicle that's extremely affordable and fuel efficient, while having zero issues in record snow storms on stock tires. Driving in 6 inches of unplowed slow up a hill, I've never struggled with traction.

For people who live in areas where winter is a next level bitch, the Ecoboost with AWD is still a great truck.

 

[rjent]

PHEV aren't as efficient as we would think they "should" be.

I read an article breaking down the 3 different Toyota Rav4 vehicles- the regular, Hybrid, PHEV. Money-wise the PHEV was the worst of all of them, (by a few Thousand $$ over 5 years) when considering purchase price and gas money spent. PLUS the PHEV usually have to compromise storage space somewhere for that extra battery.

They said the hybrid was the best.

That is absolutely not true. We have a fleet of Fords and one of them, our main transportation, is a PHEV Fusion Energi. We live within its range of all of our commuting needs and we can go 6 to 8 months without buying gas. Battery range is from 20 to over 35 depending on the load and temps. It takes about 90 cents to recharge the battery. We can then take the car on a road trip (which we do annually) and it takes a little over 120 dollars to go 2000 miles (it is a hybrid that can recover almost 40 miles of driving with regen) I can't say how dissappointed I am that they are not bringing out the PHEV. So much for ford leading the electric market......

 

[Edge Haley]

PHEV requires more battery for it to make sense. That may raise the Maverick cost to a point where Ford isn't intending to put it.

And add significantly to the weight of the current Hybrid.

 

[GPSMan]

A plug-in makes sense and saves you money when you get free charging at work!!!!

 

[Deleted member 1483]

After owning my hybrid for a year, I can definitely say that I do not need awd. I no longer recommend it to anyone.

 

[colinl]

And add significantly to the weight of the current Hybrid.

Looking at the Escape, it does indeed to be at least 500 pounds additional.

 

[TheQuixotic1]

As someone that already has level 2 charging for an EV at the house, I would love a PHEV option for the Maverick with a 30-60 mile EV only range.

60 mile range wouldn't be cost effective from a consumer's price standpoint or manufacturer's production standpoint. What would make the most sense would be for them to use what they already have.

Most HEVs have a battery roughly 1.5kwh in size. More efficient BEVs are currently averaging around 3.5 miles per kwh of battery power; there are a lot of different variables that impact that figure. The Escape PHEV has a 14.4kwh battery for an approximate range of 40 miles, which assumes roughly 2.7 miles per kwh for PHEVs. I would imagine that would translate to a similar range for the Maverick and would hopefully lend itself to a one size fits all PHEV pack that Ford could scale across their vehicle lineup. I would love to see a PHEV Maverick with ~33 miles of range or a PHEV Ranger with ~25 miles of range. I have a dual EV charger at my house and would love to use the second charger next to my wife's Bolt EUV on a PHEV that we can road trip with whilst still handling my ~17 mile round trip commute everyday without issue.

 

[bearsfan647]

it would probably cannibalize the f150 lightning sales or at least what little there is.

I get people love their mavericks but comments like this are hilarious.

yes… the only thing difference between the f150 lighting and maverick is **checks notes** mpg?

 

[yoyomav]

escape starts at 32849 CAD and escape phev starts at 47499 CAD. That's over 40% premium for phev.

with the amount of driving that I'm doing it would take over 10 years to break even, not even talking about opportunity cost / car loan interest.

On the other hand hybrid Maverick at no premium over gas version seems like no-brainer to me.

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