If they made a full EV Maverick, would you buy, switch? [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[WesM]

Key words being "when it was introduced", what is it now?

around $47k I think

Base maverick is $21k vs base F150 at $31k so $10k apart. That would put a base Maverick EV around $37k.

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[Msjulie]

Cali has had Flex advisories for years. It has nothing to do with ev's in general but large energy consumption in the evenings. They ask, not tell, that you conserve between 5pm and 10pm by reducing large electric users. And to use the heavy consumables after 10pm.

I do agree though if they can't feed enough power when demand is high now then they are in serious trouble in the future!

This especially ticks me off, well among other related things. PG&E - corrupt and incompetent beyond words, again tried to sneak a tax in for people who consume their OWN generated solar power ! Luckily a reprieve but they will try again; backward, unmaintained network etc.. grr

Sorry for yelling but one thing that can really help everyone is more solar, residential and otherwise. We have solar and a battery backup at home because PG&E (for those not lucky to have that fine utility serve them, they burned down a town and suffer outages often).

For a good majority of the year, the excess we produce goes back to the grid at a fraction of the cost of what they charge us; this is after running parts of our house and helping charge our EV.

Solutions can be found but it's not to the $ benefit of everyone so nothing will be easy.

BTW gasoline refinement uses quite a bit of electricity. Texas has some of the largest solar farms in the country and no surprise, help power the refineries. Imagine powering homes and cars instead.

This is off topic a bit though, sorry.

Currently owning a full EV and hybrid, there are benefits outside the debate on environmental concerns. They can be cheaper to own by a long stretch - something I read about but got to experience for real as the EV is over 4 years old now. It literally has had new tires (just due to milage) and I flushed the brake fluid after 3 years. That's it. Oh sorry, wiper fluid and blades.

The hybrid has had all the things, oil changes, belt and hose checks, etc. Not a biggie, the car is still young but the difference is interesting to experience first hand.

My favorite source of grins is just how darn quick the EV - yeah I do like a quick/fast car - though yeah that would not be the purpose of our hybrid Maverick (if we ever get our order in)

So yeah if they offered a plugin hybrid, we'd be all over it.

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

This especially ticks me off, well among other related things. PG&E - corrupt and incompetent beyond words, again tried to sneak a tax in for people who consume their OWN generated solar power ! Luckily a reprieve but they will try again; backward, unmaintained network etc.. grr

Sorry for yelling but one thing that can really help everyone is more solar, residential and otherwise. We have solar and a battery backup at home because PG&E (for those not lucky to have that fine utility serve them, they burned down a town and suffer outages often).

For a good majority of the year, the excess we produce goes back to the grid at a fraction of the cost of what they charge us; this is after running parts of our house and helping charge our EV.

Solutions can be found but it's not to the $ benefit of everyone so nothing will be easy.

BTW gasoline refinement uses quite a bit of electricity. Texas has some of the largest solar farms in the country and no surprise, help power the refineries. Imagine powering homes and cars instead.

This is off topic a bit though, sorry.

Currently owning a full EV and hybrid, there are benefits outside the debate on environmental concerns. They can be cheaper to own by a long stretch - something I read about but got to experience for real as the EV is over 4 years old now. It literally has had new tires (just due to milage) and I flushed the brake fluid after 3 years. That's it. Oh sorry, wiper fluid and blades.

The hybrid has had all the things, oil changes, belt and hose checks, etc. Not a biggie, the car is still young but the difference is interesting to experience first hand.

My favorite source of grins is just how darn quick the EV - yeah I do like a quick/fast car - though yeah that would not be the purpose of our hybrid Maverick (if we ever get our order in)

So yeah if they offered a plugin hybrid, we'd be all over it.

Disagree with your perception. The decision makers in DC have already admitted that the Grid is inadequate for the all electric vehicles that would be in place by the timeline they have set. Unless they actually do something about the grid and shore up security surrounding it, electric vehicles in the timeline proposed are a pipe dream. Solar is not the answer for many. It only generates decent power in areas where sunshine is available and California isn't the only place they are talking about removing a return on the power that is unused in solar homes and also about taxing it. States already want to tax EV's for not using gasoline where they get part of their revenue and some states already do. Also go to Youtube and watch the videos on folks that bought solar Packages for their homes not being sized correctly, not being adequate while being exhorbitant in cost for many home owners. In other words not practical for enough folks to implement. As far as refineries, gasoline isn't the only thing refined from oil. Plastic which the Maverick is full of for instance. That is not going away anytime soon.

 

[Msjulie]

As far as refineries, gasoline isn't the only thing refined from oil. Plastic which the Maverick is full of for instance. That is not going away anytime soon.

No argument with much of what you said though I do disagree about solar and other renewables; I've seen plenty of discussions and studies that show if we want to make the grid clean we can and not even requiring tech we don't have today.

I honestly believe the biggest impediment is the will to do so; those industries displaced aren't going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

Note even who is willing, and when they became so, to build EVs. It took a bit of a nut job (Mr Musk, I admire his efforts but not so much the man) and company he wouldn't let die to jerk some of the old guard into focusing even a little on EVs.

Ford's new Ford Blue case in point. After years of short sellers and FUD about how no one wants an EV suddenly, when Tesla can't begin to meet demand, all the sudden EVs are the 'new hotness'.

Interesting times we live in for sure. I try remain optimistic (and continually educated) on these topics cause what else have we got.

 

[MaverRick]

Electrify America is already having trouble trying to support the numbers of BEV’s currently out there now. Also, some manufacturers are providing several years worth of free charging for people who would otherwise charge at home. This makes it harder for people who need these stations to be available for road trips. As it stands now, doing a road trip in a BEV requires a lot of planning!!

 

[mr mojo risen]

Not going to wade through the entire 15-page thread.

To answer the OP’s question, “NO”.

 

[Haha48]

If they do plug in or electric awd add some ground clearance then I would switch

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

No argument with much of what you said though I do disagree about solar and other renewables; I've seen plenty of discussions and studies that show if we want to make the grid clean we can and not even requiring tech we don't have today.

I honestly believe the biggest impediment is the will to do so; those industries displaced aren't going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

Note even who is willing, and when they became so, to build EVs. It took a bit of a nut job (Mr Musk, I admire his efforts but not so much the man) and company he wouldn't let die to jerk some of the old guard into focusing even a little on EVs.

Ford's new Ford Blue case in point. After years of short sellers and FUD about how no one wants an EV suddenly, when Tesla can't begin to meet demand, all the sudden EVs are the 'new hotness'.

Interesting times we live in for sure. I try remain optimistic (and continually educated) on these topics cause what else have we got.

With the threats to the US growing every day a few things come to mind..1.) whatever the source, without security to the electric storage unless you put a faraday cage around them an EMT assault would kill all electrical power, 2.) With a global supply chain the ability to get the resources needed will be worse then ever as we've seen in both the Ukraine and China. 3.) Fossil fuels will be necessary to power many of the so called green solutions ( see windmills for an example)4.) Batteries are bad for the environment and harmful to human beings. Just pointing out some of the fallacies of moving away from fossil fuels on a politically set timeline rather then advancements in science timeline..

 

[stoptothink]

No argument with much of what you said though I do disagree about solar and other renewables; I've seen plenty of discussions and studies that show if we want to make the grid clean we can and not even requiring tech we don't have today.

Link them. I think it's possible, but not without trillions of dollars spent on infrastructure and completely destroying our economy. Considering China and India have shown zero interest in going this direction, I'm not sure what anybody thinks the upside to this is. There are some pretty obvious reasons our aristocracy is pushing us in this direction, and IMO it has nothing to do with the greater good.

I'm a huge fan of EVs and likely do not buy another ICE vehicle, but it works for my family's situation, it definitely is not a solution for everybody (anytime in the near future).

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

Not exactly ..there are devices that prevent that and exist today and a faraday cage would prevent that kind of attck from doing damage to energy resources. I did not see you address any of the other points but this push to electric vehicles is nothing more then politics..

 

[GPSMan]

No. I put in a reservation for the Silverado EV the first day reservations opened. Then I learned about all the things it CAN'T do. Sure, it can pull a cruise ship out of the water, but the RANGE while TOWING is going to be like 100 miles. Or less depending on what you want to tow. And WHERE do most people want to take trucks? OFF ROAD which means OFF-GRID. YOU CAN't take a Jerry Can of extra electricity with you to the SD badlands or Utah Arches.

I've had a Chevy Bolt EV for six years and love it. PERFECT for a single occupant daily commuter car in the city.

The Mav Hybrid is so great; a PHEV is not needed and an EV is pointless. Look what the CURRENT model will do around the city with RANGE to traverse the Badlands! Ford NAILED IT.

 

[Last Truck Ever]

No, just because the infrastructure isn't there yet. I'm not plotting trips based on where I can/can't find a charging station, or a place to plug in my own charger/adapter. Nope. I'm too old for that crap, check back in a decade....or two.

 

[AngloSoup]

Price matters to some of us. I'm paying cash and only willing to spend so much.

An EV Maverick the same price as the hybrid. No competition. Of course I'd get the EV.

An EV Maverick starting at $40k. Nope. Out of my price range, won't even consider

Price matters! Regarding PHEV, I drive over 30 miles a day on days I drive. A PHEV would not be beneficial to me.

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