I think it's both. A slight boost in power (or efficiency) that then causes a slight boost in MPG. Note: I'm no engineer, just trying to repeat what I understood in another post.
Short trips like that are going to reduce your average. You're running cold the whole way so your engine is running rich and inefficient. Try combining trips to fewer and longer ones.This is my first hybrid vehicle and I’m trying to figure out how to get the most MPG and what options to use (normal vs eco). Flat land around here and most of my errands including work are within 3 miles from home.
Took this photo after an errand. Does it mean I’m getting 34.8 miles overall? Seems low for a short trip and driving like a grandma.
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False... you would have better remained silent. Lots of data disagrees. Here's an example.
The only important fuel choice is ethanol content.
This can't be overstated. Break-in, learning curve and ambient temperature are all going to go the same way.
You're thinking of the traction motor, which is directly geared to the wheels and so stays in 1st gear to redline, defining top speed (absent limiters). This is the same as most BEVs.
DIng, ding, ding! Short trips from a cold start will kill mileage.
Congrats. You know more than the fuel gauge on my truck. Also the Atkinson does not provide great torque at the low end. Thats why they are paired to hybrids because the electric motor picks that up. So at LOW speeds on engine only the Atkinson has poor fuel effeciency.False
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False... you would have better remained silent. Lots of data disagrees. Here's an example.
This is an Atkinson Fill Ratio performance map of a 2.5L ICE. The contours are labeled by fill ratio. Note that the 2.0 contour (50% fill) is a closed ellipse at 1-1.5K RPM. It's getting nearly 40% efficiency at low RPM, much less at higher RPM.
No engine is more efficient. This is the state of the art. And it does so at low RPM. Stop blowing smoke.
Here’s my understanding, and maybe the missing puzzle piece in this exchange is that at low speeds the atkinson is mainly acting as a source of electricity generation to give power (essentially directly) to the traction motor since the HVB can only provide a portion of the total kw capacity that the traction motor can use for strong acceleration, or it may have low SOC; and the ICE is not so much applying energy to direct drive torque at these low speeds. Above a certain speed, this is no longer as efficient as just applying ICE energy more directly to the wheels.
Of the electric motor is not running due to low battery the oce is driving everything. It is just not good at low speed.
I have no idea what this is supposed to be saying. Winter mileage is lower due to increased drag due to higher density of cold air, higher rolling resistance, increased viscosity of various fluids, winter gas blends, etc.
But do you get my point, the ICE may be working, but it’s not always “driving” the wheels directly, and is instead at low speeds directly applying electricity to the traction motor? The HVB gets it’s energy from the ICE too, the traction motor is getting electricity directly from the ICE or through a buffer (the HVB). So the ICE torque argument is less relevant at low speeds because it’s just being a part of a generator. It’s gonna be the same 40% thermal efficiency at 1500 to 3400 rpm or so, does it matter if this RPM range is happening at 0 mph or 30 mph?
can someone explain the read outs? Am I reading this right? The car has 422 miles driven with 118 miles left to go for a combined mileage of 540?Here’s the real mpg of the hybrid about 85% highway normal driving
It's still revving trying to drive the truck.
