Longest hybrid oil change interval?!?

[HeyBales]

The person asked for recommendations. I am giving my recommendation. I could care less what anyone else chooses to do with their hybrid Maverick. I choose to do an oil change every 5,000 miles. As l mentioned previously we live in a very hot climate here in the Mojave Desert and the vehicle engine compartment gets hot, as does the engine compartments in all of our other vehicles. That alone to me puts our vehicle in the severe use range. I choose 5,000 miles instead of chancing it to 7,500 miles. It is peace of mind to know the oil change is done. This is directly from our 2023 Maverick Lariat hybrid owner's manual. Please tell me where MY opinion and thus MY recommendation is in any way contrary to what Ford recommends in our owner's manual? Are people not entitled to their opinions anymore?

Just do your change whenever - and be happy with it, and the fact others may or may not join you.

But don't pretend to be confused by the manual and state it's recommended and you know why.
The BIG BOLD statement under Normal Maintenance Intervals says when.
The chart is to help confused drivers with why it may be different each time.

If you are truly driving severe, as described in the chart - Get ready for the OLM to end you at 5-7.5k miles.
And that's because you are probably not in EV mode that often, therefore ICE running more, besides the high load on it.

Again - after my last oil change, the next 100 miles was 90% highway above 70 mph.
The OLM was going to land me at 5600 miles for the next oil change - if I kept that up.

Mavster has reported the 3K oil change per the OLM when he was towing.

And several have shown their Lariat or 25/26 trip miles giving exact ICE miles and it being around ..... drum roll please .... 5k-6k miles.

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[Kenv24]

Has anybody actually had their mileage float past 10,000?

I’ve seen the OLM predicting more than 10,000 - but is that number as accurate as “miles to empty”?

Well, the OLM told me to change it at "around" 10,000. I took it to 13,000. No big deal. Truck will NOT blow up.....and next owner that gets it will NEVER KNOW the difference between 3,000, 5,000, or 13,000 mile oil changes. It's really that simple. Entertaining to read these posts for sure.... but bottom line....the days of 3,000 or 5,000 mile oil changes are long gone. They are only stuck inside "your" box of thinking. Just look at what happened to a corded rotary phone to what we have now. Just picture that being your oil. Hell, I'm typing this from a computer in my hand...IN MY HAND!!!!!.......

 

[Chops]

Well, the OLM told me to change it at "around" 10,000. I took it to 13,000. No big deal. Truck will NOT blow up.....and next owner that gets it will NEVER KNOW the difference between 3,000, 5,000, or 13,000 mile oil changes. It's really that simple. Entertaining to read these posts for sure.... but bottom line....the days of 3,000 or 5,000 mile oil changes are long gone. They are only stuck inside "your" box of thinking. Just look at what happened to a corded rotary phone to what we have now. Just picture that being your oil. Hell, I'm typing this from a computer in my hand...IN MY HAND!!!!!.......

Typing on a computer in your hand lol.

In the near future men with computers in their hands will look as odd as men wearing fedoras look to us now.

And 3000-5000 mile oil changes are still very relevant on turbo cars (off topic sorry). Or 12 months - whichever comes first. Ford themselves recommend 6 months for severe use EB’s (off topic sorry).

May your box be filled with happiness & love. And appropriate oil change intervals!

 

[Chops]

EB don't exceed 10K.
Hybrid you may exceed 10K.

Neither over a year.

Pretty sure I know what super basic rules the OLM is following.
Not that confusing really.

I wonder if an EB OLM has gone beyond 10,000 miles without a reset like the Hybrid allows?

If not, and the OLM algorithms are identical, it shows the OLM is picking up on the extra horsepower & torque etc of the EB.

 

[Maxxedoubt]

At my last oil change (dealer) the OLM only reset to 4,200 miles. I did a reset at 1,000 miles and again it went to 4,200. Previous two oil changes went to 10,000. Anybody know why this would be?
If the stealer changed something how can I change it back?

 

[HeyBales]

I wonder if an EB OLM has gone beyond 10,000 miles without a reset like the Hybrid allows?

If not, and the OLM algorithms are identical, it shows the OLM is picking up on the extra horsepower & torque etc of the EB.

You mean - will an EB OLM estimate remaining life to go past 10K miles, if it falls under 12 months?

You don't even need to reach the end. It treats rest of the available time/distance as if driven the same as since the last oil change.

Someone with only a month since last oil change, but on track for over 10K annual of gentle driving give me the following:
Date of oil change, miles since then, OLM figure, bonus if Ford app shows distance remaining.

 

[HeyBales]

At my last oil change (dealer) the OLM only reset to 4,200 miles. I did a reset at 1,000 miles and again it went to 4,200. Previous two oil changes went to 10,000. Anybody know why this would be?
If the stealer changed something how can I change it back?

What does that even mean - "reset to 4200 miles"?
The OLM doesn't go by miles on the truck nor report that - you mean reported miles in the Ford app for estimated distance remaining?

If that's what you mean - your current driving is looking harsh enough it's only estimating 4200 miles more.
You reset the OLM, and your current driving is still looking harsh enough it's only estimating 4200 miles more.
Or you are realizing it can take awhile to adjust?

Don't reset it again - guess what's likely to happen.

And I'm assuming your actual OLM% figure read in upper 90's% on truck and in app?

Or did you check truck and app - to discover they may not match?
Truck only reports %, Ford server maths out distance remaining.

But sometimes it takes time to adjust, as you add miles of different driving.

 

[Chops]

You mean - will an EB OLM estimate remaining life to go past 10K miles, if it falls under 12 months?

You don't even need to reach the end. It treats rest of the available time/distance as if driven the same as since the last oil change.

Someone with only a month since last oil change, but on track for over 10K annual of gentle driving give me the following:
Date of oil change, miles since then, OLM figure, bonus if Ford app shows distance remaining.

I meant to say if one has driven more than 10,000 miles with a EB without hitting 0% - like you did with your 11.1k miles. I’m guessing that only happens on the Hybrid?
But most miles before 0% on an EB is a topic for another thread.

 

[Ranko Kohime]

Your 25,000+ sets a new high water mark!

Although you had to reset the OLM. How many miles did it go before hitting 0%?

I haven't paid much attention to the interval, but I am fairly certain I have reset it as low as 5k miles on a few occasions. It counts down much faster when you're towing.

 

[svogt302]

I've been doing alot of short trips.... OLM has me change <5K.

 

[ZABSMAV]

I've been doing alot of short trips.... OLM has me change <5K.

Same here. A lot of short trips could be considered "severe use" as defined by Ford, as the engine doesn't get a real chance to heat up to an optimal temperature. A 5,000 mile interval for oil changes is a good idea. Oil is cheaper than engine repairs.

 

[HeyBales]

I've been doing alot of short trips.... OLM has me change <5K.

Thanks for confirming the OLM pays attention to that specific aspect and correctly recommends an appropriate change interval.

Some might even wait until 5K and be over!



Now a report from a winter cold long idler for heat, or perhaps desert heat idler for maxAC.

 

[Chops]

I've been doing alot of short trips.... OLM has me change <5K.

Im guessing that is the OLM predicting the miles before you hit 12 months? I’d be surprised if the OLM went to 0% before you got close to 12 months.

 

[Ryom]

Now a report from a winter cold long idler for heat, or perhaps desert heat idler for maxAC.

We've had record highs and lows since buying my Mav (-5F to 105F). I have it scheduled start idle for 15 mins prior to going to work and 15 mins before leaving work... sonetimes using extended idle if I get held up. About 4,500 on the odometer and the OLM was in the %-teens when I had the annual maintenance done and oil changed. I'm at 4,800 now and at about 85% on OLM.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Im guessing that is the OLM predicting the miles before you hit 12 months? I’d be surprised if the OLM went to 0% before you got close to 12 months.

The EB and Hybrid might be different.
And they probably should be different. But they don't have to be.

But I don't think you are paying much attention to the many oil life threads.

It is not a "simple" countdown.
It is not mileage based.
It is use based.

Proven. Done.

Mine has taken 14,000 miles for oil life to hit zero when driving gently (In less than a year) and it has gone to zero in 3 months and 5,000 miles when towing.

It may count gallons burned.
Because, why not. It's easy to do.
And doesn't gallons burned correlate to wear and tear?

You can idle. Put zero miles on, and oil life will go to zero. Eventually.

You can tow super heavy and high wind drag for 3000 miles, burn a lot of gas, and oil life will hit zero.

You can drive super conservatively.
Keep it under 45 MPH. Go a ton of miles, by burning very little gas per mile.

Changing oil based on miles alone is just plain DUMB and ranks barely above not doing it at all.

Changing based on time is slightly better than miles but not much.

Changing based on gallons burned I would say is pretty good. And anyone can do that. Computer or not.

Taking gallons burned along with temperatures and cold starts, and time, and miles all considered may be best. But who knows what is in the formula outside of a few people at Ford?

What is known for sure is: changing oil based on miles is fine, but is the least accurate method of all those discussed.

250 gallons burned gets most Hybrid drivers to 10,000 miles.

250 gallons burned gets most EB drivers to 6,000 miles.

Seems about right, doesn't it.

250 gallons burned while towing a camper gets me 4,000 miles.

250 gallons burned while being gentle, coasting a lot, and staying under 55 MPH gets me to 14,000.

4000 miles
6000 miles
10,000 miles
14,000 miles

Possible to have the same wear & tear in all four cases.


OLM is heavily influenced by miles per gallon.
Let that sink in.

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