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Am i the only one on here that doesn’t like auto hold feature

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Just pull the parking brake switch while you're driving. That'll knock the rust off the rear rotors 'real quick! :LOL:
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Nope, not referring to hill descent control or hill start assist. Start assist is automatically activated when it senses that you’ll roll backwards if you let off of the brake when in a forward gear. If in reverse, it will automatically engage if it senses that you would roll forwards. It is not defeat-able. It would not spontaneously activate when trying to do precise positioning in your relatively flat garage and it only lasts for a second, designed to fill the lag between lifting off the brake and applying the throttle.
Yeah, if you look back, I was just questioning you because you called it “Hill Hold”…. so I thought maybe you were confused between the two and what other manufacturers call their auto hold or hill hold. Also, others were questioning the original poster on which one he was talking about too. We’re good. I got you now.
 

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Am i the only one on here that doesn’t like auto hold feature
Yes you are the only one. Best feature I never knew I needed.
 

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what other thing do you do with your foot with all this effort you save?
not so much the foot, but let the right leg hang loosely.

It's not a lot of effort to keep the brake applied, but it does keep a bit of tension in the lower thigh to keep the foot on the brake pedal. The longer the drive, the more noticeable.

At my height, any seating position is a compromise between left leg, right leg, and seat height. There is not an "all's good" spot. So letting the car hold the brake is that much less tension.

I drove my Miata 350 miles, and was in pain from my left thigh being a bit above the seat and holding part of its own weight. (I solved this with a small pillow, or maybe it was a towel on the return trip). I'm a bit more conscious of such things, and avoiding pain, since then . . .

Oh, and I checked today: my wife's 2025 hybrid will start creeping forward when I stop with the auto stop engaged, and then release it.
 

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At my height, any seating position is a compromise between left leg, right leg, and seat height. There is not an "all's good" spot. So letting the car hold the brake is that much less tension.
What is your height?
 

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If I do that with the Maverick, it stays stopped and does not respond to the light throttle input. I need to actually tip the throttle in, bringing the rpm up by 200-300 before it will start to move forward. And then it surges forward by a minimum of 6 inches, which then forces me to slam on my brakes, rather than gently creeping.
I tried this for the first time today, for analysis sake. I barely have to put pressure against the accelerator to make the brakes release. I literally don't even feel the pedal move. Watching the tach, it doesn't register any increase in RPM before the brakes release. There is no jerking feeling, but the brakes completely release, and by the time I've moved back to the brake I've moved about 2 inches. It's not exactly like creeping in gear with auto hold turned off and a foot on the brake but I still can state with confidence that auto hold operation on mine is smooth.
 
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I tried this for the first time today, for analysis sake. I barely have to put pressure against the accelerator to make the brakes release. I literally don't even feel the pedal move. Watching the tach, it doesn't register any increase in RPM before the brakes release. There is no jerking feeling, but the brakes completely release, and by the time I've moved back to the brake I've moved about 2 inches. It's not exactly like creeping in gear with auto hold turned off and a foot on the brake but I still can state with confidence that auto hold operation on mine is smooth.
I was about to chime back in, as well. I've only recently started to consistently turn on Eco mode when driving and today I forgot to turn auto-hold off before leaving a long red light. It made a world of difference for me. Was pretty smooth. Didn't mind it all.

But I was reminded why I hate it when I forget to turn it off....

Reversing into a parking spot, especially a tight one that takes multiple attempts...oof, not fun with the auto-hold on. No thank you.
 

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Reversing into a parking spot, especially a tight one that takes multiple attempts...oof, not fun with the auto-hold on. No thank you.
Yeah. It's not something I want for the vast majority of my driving, only in certain circumstances; then I turn it off.
 

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What is your height?
a tad over 6'2".

well, in total. The problem is that I have 6' legs, but a 6'4" torso, which makes fitting anything other than a good suit odd.

I have to have the seat in the maverick lower than would be optimal to be able to see well enough, which adds slack to my legs.
 

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a tad over 6'2".

well, in total. The problem is that I have 6' legs, but a 6'4" torso, which makes fitting anything other than a good suit odd.

I have to have the seat in the maverick lower than would be optimal to be able to see well enough, which adds slack to my legs.
That’s 12’4” total, wow!
 
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I care about auto hold like I care about the rotary shifter. It definitely doesn't cause enough problems to start a thread or buy a delete devise. My .02
 

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a tad over 6'2".

well, in total. The problem is that I have 6' legs, but a 6'4" torso, which makes fitting anything other than a good suit odd.

I have to have the seat in the maverick lower than would be optimal to be able to see well enough, which adds slack to my legs.
I got the opposite problem. Legs of someone about 6"3 but body of a typical 5'11, to get to the just short of 6'1 actual. Luckily my arms match my legs so however far away those put me I can still reach. I have come across vehicles I just can't get into with the seat racked all the way back. Think the 2nd gen Neon was one, depending on whether it had an adjustable steering wheel option. Tempo was a squeeze. I then am sometimes sitting with knee rubbing at 4:30 and 7:30 on the wheel and not using my joints in a straight line, so get sore knees and ankles.
 

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a tad over 6'2".

well, in total. The problem is that I have 6' legs, but a 6'4" torso, which makes fitting anything other than a good suit odd.

I have to have the seat in the maverick lower than would be optimal to be able to see well enough, which adds slack to my legs.
I'm 6'3.5" with a 36" inseam. I have the seat up higher than normal, because I've never had a vehicle with seat height adjustment before and did it by accident and found out it works. There's no danger of my leg hitting the shifter. The only issue I have is that on long trips, the seat makes my thigh sore.
 

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It wouldn't be a proper complaint thread without someone mentioning the dial/rotary shifter!
 

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Alright, we’re on page 9 now.

I absolutely love it.

(Like, don’t love, but like the rotary shifter)
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