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Important to note that Ford's standard AWD system in the Maverick does not offer torque vectoring, AWD/4WD lock, or ability to lock either axle (front or rear) to distribute power 50/50 to each wheel of the axle.

It simply brakes (providing resistance) the free spinning wheel which will "transfer" power to the other wheel that had more traction.
Yes and no on the 50/50. I'm no expert on it so this is like a quote "100% to a given wheel/tire" on several videos. Here is one explanation of it. Also with traction lock on that's not going to help from my understanding with several different inputs that I read a few years ago online. Of course that's not all Maverick many were on the transit and explaining what to do if stuck in deep snow. Slippery mode with traction control off, is what I remember but it's been awhile. I liked this video because it helps explaining the AWD system from someone that helped with it.

 

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Simple, the Mav is an AWD
Not a 4X4
 

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L is not really a true low mode. It keeps the RPM's higher, kind of simulating downshifting when you are coming down a hill. So if driving down pikes peak or over I70 cont divide, you want to hit the L. It's kind of like on a Prius where you can't select your own gears you get a "B" where it brakes with the engine and don't just use up your brakes. I've never off-roaded in a vehicle I couldn't choose my gears, not sure I would want to. I wouldn't be surprised if the Maverick starts in 2nd gear like a lot of automatics today (Ford has for years, Kia, Mazda, etc, it's great in the snow) but you can floor it, manually downshift, sport mode, L, etc to get it to use 1st gear.

A real low mode reduces the gearing of all the gears to an extremely low speed. I had 5 speeds on my Wrangler and would get maybe 20-25mph out of them in low at best. Same on my old Silverado. A Maverick 1st gear in "low" is still a 4.7:1 ratio. My Jeep had a 48:1 ratio in 1st gear in low.

The Maverick... sure you can do some kind of rough dirt road, maybe fire trail even stuff. I wouldn't really go off road with it though myself unless I really knew where I was going and had friends... Case and point, I've driven pucker pass in Moab a bunch of times, a neat out of the way off road trail down from Canyonlands National Park. Took my 98 Silverado on it which had the Z71 package bone stock no problem. Went out with a slightly modified Wrangler Rubicon a couple years later came around a corner where it's tight and it had been washed out a fair bit. No where to turn so figured it didn't look too bad and continued. Went about 100 yards and it took me 20 minutes to get to a spot where it opened up a bit and I could 20 point turn around. 4x4, lockers on, low gear, sway bar disconnected, everything and still rubbed a rail a few times. If I had my Silverado still that day, I'd have been backing up for forever to get out and it would have been sketch.

98% of my trips I could have done in something much much less. It's that 2% that gets you. And off-roading the Maverick I am sure can take the 98% with ease.

You are right there's a lot different though, clearance is king. Though the Subaru AWD system is amazing and really does well with lateral torque. Plus you can choose your gears (though I think their 1st is a fair bit higher).
Yes it's different but still better than drive and just normal mode when off roading, Or testing the AWD system for off road use . Yes the 2 speed transfer case is better which I believed I mentioned. One thing to remember the 2.0 reaches max torque at 3000rpm which is impressive and helps off set this advantage. The hybrid is a little higher at 4000 rpm to get 155lbs of torque vs 277 lbs of torque at 3000 rpm on the 2.0. This difference made my decision for me, when considering.
 

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Yes and no on the 50/50. I'm no expert on it so this is like a quote "100% to a given wheel/tire" on several videos. Here is one explanation of it. Also with traction lock on that's not going to help from my understanding with several different inputs that I read a few years ago online. Of course that's not all Maverick many were on the transit and explaining what to do if stuck in deep snow. Slippery mode with traction control off, is what I remember but it's been awhile. I liked this video because it helps explaining the AWD system from someone that helped with it.

It is a definite no on the 50/50 split front and rear. You cannot "lock it" into this mode that will force a 50/50 split. This occurs when the vehicle senses slipping and pushes power to the rear axle. The video states just that.

The only 100% power comment I heard was to the rear axle. The PTU can send 100% of power to the rear axle.

For side to side on any given axle - the standard AWD cannot push power from one side or the other. When they discuss the RDU and clutch pack they are discussing how it connects to the driveshaft and axles.

They do highlight how the RDU works with the brakes to send power to the outside wheel. This does not have the upgraded RDU like Tremor and Lobo. This is how torque is ultimately "transferred" side to side. The wheel with the least resistance (or free spinning wheel) will activate a sensor that let's the Mav know to apply brakes to that wheel which forces torque to the other wheel on the axle. In the event that neither wheel as traction the Mav would go back and forth to try and gain traction.
 
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Yes it's different but still better than drive and just normal mode when off roading, Or testing the AWD system for off road use . Yes the 2 speed transfer case is better which I believed I mentioned. One thing to remember the 2.0 reaches max torque at 3000rpm which is impressive and helps off set this advantage. The hybrid is a little higher at 4000 rpm to get 155lbs of torque vs 277 lbs of torque at 3000 rpm on the 2.0. This difference made my decision for me, when considering.
This is not true as the 155 lb ft of torque is only the 2.5L Atkinson 4.

The electric motor has 173 lb ft of torque which is available immediately upon throttle input. I would suspect the Hybrid has anywhere between 220-230 ft lbs of torque available immediately with throttle input.
 

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It is a definite no on the 50/50 split front and rear. You cannot "lock it" into this mode that will force a 50/50 split. This occurs when the vehicle senses slipping and pushes power to the rear axle. The video states just that.

The only 100% power comment I heard was to the rear axle. The PTU can send 100% of power to the rear axle.

For side to side on any given axle - the standard AWD cannot push power from one side or the other. When they discuss the RDU and clutch pack they are discussing how it connects to the driveshaft and axles.

They do highlight how the RDU works with the brakes to send power to the outside wheel. This does not have the upgraded RDU like Tremor and Lobo.
You are correct 100% to the rear axle. Now if you are correct and the computer is breaking one of those wheels, how much of the 100% going to the axle is going to the opposite wheel that's not breaking?
 

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You are correct 100% to the rear axle. Now if you are correct and the computer is breaking one of those wheels, how much of the 100% going to the axle is going to the opposite wheel that's not breaking?
But it is not the RDU and the clutch pack transferring the power. It is applying brake force to the wheel to force power back to the other side with (now) less resistance.

Whereas the RDU in the Tremor and Lobo has torque vectoring capabilities and can also lock (engage clutch packs) the rear axle into a 50/50 split.

So in short standard AWD - cannot lock into a 50/50 power split from front to rear axle, the RDU does not have torque vectoring capabilities, RDU cannot lock the rear wheels into a 50/50 split, and it achieves power transfer between wheels on the same axle by applying brake force to the free spinning wheel.
 

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But it is not the RDU and the clutch pack transferring the power. It is applying brake force to the wheel to force power back to the other side with (now) less resistance.

Whereas the RDU in the Tremor and Lobo has torque vectoring capabilities and can also lock (engage clutch packs) the rear axle into a 50/50 split.

So in short standard AWD - cannot lock into a 50/50 power split from front to rear axle, the RDU does not have torque vectoring capabilities, RDU cannot lock the rear wheels into a 50/50 split, and it achieves power transfer between wheels on the same axle by applying brake force to the free spinning wheel.
I think you are missing my point. I posted the Maverick can give 100% to an individual wheel/tire. I'm not debating the 50/50 I'm stating the Maverick's computer by transferring 100% to the back axle and also breaking the wheel that's slipping is sending 100% to the opposite wheel/tire.

After 100% of power is powering the rear axle and differential it's not reducing when the computer is automatically breaking the spinning wheel. Therefore individual wheel/tire should get 100% .
 

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I think you are missing my point. I posted the Maverick can give 100% to an individual wheel/tire. I'm not debating the 50/50 I'm stating the Maverick's computer by transferring 100% to the back axle and also breaking the wheel that's slipping is sending 100% to the opposite wheel/tire.

After 100% of power is powering the rear axle and differential it's not reducing when the computer is automatically breaking the spinning wheel. Therefore individual wheel/tire should get 100% .
Except your overcoming the brake force applied to the original spinning wheel so you aren't pushing 100% to one wheel. You're pushing 100% to one axle some subset less makes it to the wheel with lesser traction.
 
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Wow. More proof to keep my 2022 ecoboost xlt fx4. I've been so impressed with its offroad capability, very disappointing to see this video. Also, don't blame the tires, it's clear the torque vectoring cannot do its job.

I've been wondering if the mods I've been doing to my 2022 were worth it (sync 4, screen upgrade, adaptive cruise control, ect) and now I want to put more $ into my 2022.
Was wanting to see how the AWD/Hybrid could manage "off-road" and 4k towing- Now I am good knowing that with the Lift springs and larger tires on my 22/FX4/4K manages every situation and an upgrade to the AWD/Hybrid would be with some compromise that just would not work for me with @ elevation towing and off-road fun -
 

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Was wanting to see how the AWD/Hybrid could manage "off-road" and 4k towing- Now I am good knowing that with the Lift springs and larger tires on my 22/FX4/4K manages every situation and an upgrade to the AWD/Hybrid would be with some compromise that just would not work for me with @ elevation towing and off-road fun -
Power delivery and power output is the only difference between the two drivetrains and we’ve always known what the output of both engines are.

The AWD systems are identical.
 

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Nothing we didn't know already. It's an SUV with a box, not an off road truck. Good for pavement, dirt roads, gas mileage, and snow. Not designed for much else.
 

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They should repeat this test with Firestone Destination A/T2 in 235/65R17.
that wouldn't make a difference on the rollers. could help offroad, certainly.
It is the same AWD system as your FX4. Your FX4 does not perform any torque vectoring the hybrid AWD system can't. Drive modes can be added via Forscan.
I think that may be false. In the TFL video, the driver mentions the e-cvt transmission. That could be a factor in why it doesn't manage torque and traction control as effectively as expected. I can't recall seeing TFL do this specific test on the FX4, but I do remember a different channel doing similar tests way back in late 2021 on their FX4 and it did a lot better than this. Still, not definitive, as we don't have tests on the same course / rollers.
Interesting it appears for 2025 "off-road" mode has replaced both Mud/Ruts and Sand.
yes, I made that observation last month a little after the manual was published online. https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...owners-manual-now-available.57672/post-978473
offroad and lobo drive modes both allow brake-over-accelerator. at one point in the video the driver mentions he's driving with 2 feet a little to help. he most likely was only feathering the brakes, because that would make sense to do, and because he didn't encounter the brake-over-accelerator error messages and limitations.
 

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It completed most of the tests. One thing to remember the stock tires are horrible... They should repeat this test with Firestone Destination A/T2 in 235/65R17. They are a good light weight AT tire for the Hybrid.
I was about to comment on the video itself. The tires were spinning with no good traction on that trail test. I suspect with better tires, it would have done better.
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