TFL Slip Test on 2025 Maverick Hybrid AWD

[710-oil-614]

On 4x4 they offer low gear or 2 speed transfer case. AWD on the Maverick offers Low on the ecoboost not sure on the hybrid but also allows the driver to switch modes and turn off traction control. Similar to 4x4 offering limited slip, traction look or locking differential. If you don't order optional lockers on a 4x4 basically you get one wheel in the front and one in the rear and it will spin not transferring power to the other wheel without some sort of lockers. Same principal as traction control on a AWD it is to keep the vehicle from sliding sideways especially at higher speeds. That is why some manufacturers only allow the lockers only in low 4x4 for safety.

Important to note that Ford's standard AWD system in the Maverick does not offer torque vectoring, AWD/4WD lock, or ability to lock either axle (front or rear) to distribute power 50/50 to each wheel of the axle.

It simply brakes (providing resistance) the free spinning wheel which will "transfer" power to the other wheel that had more traction.

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[The Real Maverick]

It simply brakes (providing resistance) the free spinning wheel which will "transfer" power to the other wheel that had more traction.

Did you watch the video?
It did not even do that!

 

[The Real Maverick]

As others said, it wasn't due to choice of tires in this video.

Tire tread has zero effect when your tire is up in the air.

The "problem" was.... the truck was not applying brake, or enough brake, to the tire in the air.

 

[The Real Maverick]

I will say my level of desire to upgrade to a 2025 because of AWD has gone down now.

 

[FreedomPenguin]

I will say my level of desire to upgrade to a 2025 because of AWD has gone down now.

valid, if you are actually one to need it. very valid reason to not upgrade.

 

[JacobEleventeen]

I will say my level of desire to upgrade to a 2025 because of AWD has gone down now.

The only reason I wanted AWD is because of my gravel driveway in the winter. Been wanted a hybrid maverick for a while and the 2025 upgrades finally made me pull the trigger. Even with what they showed it should help for deep snow and ice on flat surfaces which is all I deal with. Don't buy a maverick if you want to offroad.

 

[710-oil-614]

Did you watch the video?
It did not even do that!

I did, and it performed poorly. I will add all drive modes to my AWD Hybrid this weekend but I don't have ramps to test nor do I want to go lifting 2 wheels in some ditches like that.

 

[JacobEleventeen]

I did, and it performed poorly. I will add all drive modes to my AWD Hybrid this weekend but I don't have ramps to test nor do I want to go lifting 2 wheels in some ditches like that.

Are you talking about adding the other modes via Forscan? I can't imaging they would do much.

 

[jasonojordan]

Amusing the level of people concerned about the wheels off the ground test. Is it great to knowledge to have? Absolutely. But how many people that are considering the AWD are considering it because they run into situations even remotely close to that simple test? Not many.

Most want it to deal with ice/snow and loose gravel/sand situations. Even this basic AWD system will improve your abilities to tackle that. Tires while not impacting the results of these tests will impact the results of my stated above primary use case of most people considering AWD over FWD.

Not sure how people out here thought this would be any different then how it turned out. Could ford of done a better job with the programing? Absolutely! But it was never going to be a true AWD system like Audi or Subaru. It was never going to compete with a locker system like the FX4 and the Tremor have.

This was all by design and buy the right tool for the right job.

 

[710-oil-614]

Are you talking about adding the other modes via Forscan? I can't imaging they would do much.

They might not but it is missing Sand and Mud/Ruts the two primary off road modes.

There is no difference in AWD systems than EB FX4 so that would close any gap with the AWD system.

 

[inline_five]

This is an example of mission creep.

The AWD on the hybrid is AWD, not 4WD. It can get you out of situations that most people will encounter rarely, like being stuck in a muddy ditch or driving in heavy snow. It's not a trail vehicle.

The AWD is a consumer drivetrain, it's not designed to be driven on rutted trails in the backwoods. It looks like it would handle dirt trails much better than the FWD however.

If you want an efficient vehicle that you drive M-F on your commute and then want to tow your smaller boat/camper to the lake on Saturday, it's a great vehicle and will check many boxes.

If you want to go off-roading, buy a Tremor Mav or something more appropriate with 4WD (and take the corresponding MPG hit).

 

[710-oil-614]

This is an example of mission creep.

The AWD on the hybrid is AWD, not 4WD. It can get you out of situations that most people will encounter rarely, like being stuck in a muddy ditch or driving in heavy snow. It's not a trail vehicle.

The AWD is a consumer drivetrain, it's not designed to be driven on rutted trails in the backwoods. It looks like it would handle dirt trails much better than the FWD however.

If you want an efficient vehicle that you drive M-F on your commute and then want to tow your smaller boat/camper to the lake on Saturday, it's a great vehicle and will check many boxes.

If you want to go off-roading, buy a Tremor Mav or something more appropriate with 4WD (and take the corresponding MPG hit).

Honestly - if you want to off road the Tremor isn't it either (and I owned and loved it). The AWD system in the Tremor is impressive but the lack of ground clearance and underbody protection combined with no low gearing means its really just meant for slightly worse conditions than a standard Maverick.

 

[Scupking]

After re watching it if he had just turned traction control off from the start it wouldn't have had any issues. Traction control is not meant for off-roading.

 

[HeyBales]

Sounds like the Slippery mode doesn't deal with the AWD system then by changing settings, just the normal regen/braking/throttle engagement?

Does this still apply then? Seems like they could reword "does not require input from you" to "does not require nor allow input from you".

HOW DOES ALL-WHEEL DRIVE WORK - EXCLUDING: FX4 OFF ROAD/TREMOR

The all-wheel drive system is designed to continuously monitor and adjust power delivery to the front and rear wheels to optimize both traction and handling. The AWD system turns on when needed and does not require input from you.
Your all-wheel drive vehicle is not intended for off-road use. The AWD feature gives your vehicle some limited off-road capabilities in which driving surfaces are relatively level, obstruction-free and otherwise similar to normal on-road driving conditions. Operating your vehicle in conditions other than those, could subject the vehicle to excess stress which might result in damage which is not covered under your warranty.

 

[slashsnake]

I agree the AWD Subaru Legacy is not made for off road.
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I disagree that the Maverick is the same, and I would and plan on light off roading with the Maverick. On 4x4 they offer low gear or 2 speed transfer case. AWD on the Maverick offers Low on the ecoboost not sure on the hybrid but also allows the driver to switch modes and turn off traction control.

L is not really a true low mode. It keeps the RPM's higher, kind of simulating downshifting when you are coming down a hill. So if driving down pikes peak or over I70 cont divide, you want to hit the L. It's kind of like on a Prius where you can't select your own gears you get a "B" where it brakes with the engine and don't just use up your brakes. I've never off-roaded in a vehicle I couldn't choose my gears, not sure I would want to. I wouldn't be surprised if the Maverick starts in 2nd gear like a lot of automatics today (Ford has for years, Kia, Mazda, etc, it's great in the snow) but you can floor it, manually downshift, sport mode, L, etc to get it to use 1st gear.

A real low mode reduces the gearing of all the gears to an extremely low speed. I had 5 speeds on my Wrangler and would get maybe 20-25mph out of them in low at best. Same on my old Silverado. A Maverick 1st gear in "low" is still a 4.7:1 ratio. My Jeep had a 48:1 ratio in 1st gear in low.

The Maverick... sure you can do some kind of rough dirt road, maybe fire trail even stuff. I wouldn't really go off road with it though myself unless I really knew where I was going and had friends... Case and point, I've driven pucker pass in Moab a bunch of times, a neat out of the way off road trail down from Canyonlands National Park. Took my 98 Silverado on it which had the Z71 package bone stock no problem. Went out with a slightly modified Wrangler Rubicon a couple years later came around a corner where it's tight and it had been washed out a fair bit. No where to turn so figured it didn't look too bad and continued. Went about 100 yards and it took me 20 minutes to get to a spot where it opened up a bit and I could 20 point turn around. 4x4, lockers on, low gear, sway bar disconnected, everything and still rubbed a rail a few times. If I had my Silverado still that day, I'd have been backing up for forever to get out and it would have been sketch.

98% of my trips I could have done in something much much less. It's that 2% that gets you. And off-roading the Maverick I am sure can take the 98% with ease.

You are right there's a lot different though, clearance is king. Though the Subaru AWD system is amazing and really does well with lateral torque. Plus you can choose your gears (though I think their 1st is a fair bit higher).

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