Would you buy an EV maverick for 25-30k?

[OneAlienBoi]

Personally I think EV trucks are currently a joke.. I would not want one.. I love my hybrid and would get another hybrid..

Most traditionalists would say the same about a hybrid truck. EV trucks aren't the best for towing, but very few of us maverick owners are towing heavy loads.

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[The-X]

Most traditionalists would say the same about a hybrid truck. EV trucks aren't the best for towing, but very few of us maverick owners are towing heavy loads.

Or people who like to be able to drive when it's cold out. Its a pretty major flaw EVs have currently. They can use their own energy to keep the battery hot enough to react but you wouldnt want to rely on them for an emergency. Which hurts. Hybrids get around this EV flaw and the range flaw by including a generator.

The temperature one in particular constricts sales outside perpetually warm areas. Which doesnt sound bad til its -4 outside and you need to get out.

 

[Shay]

An electric Maverick would not be 25 to 30k. 25 to 30 k is base pricing for a gas or hybrid Maverick now. It would be 35 to 40 at minimum as an electric variant would be the most expensive you could get. In any case don't expect one anytime soon.

There will be unibody electric pickup from Ford which is smaller than the current Lightning, they've already announced it. It's more likely to be a midsize however.

 

[Shay]

And I do find all the back and forth about EV or not, are they good are they bad, will they work blah blah blah kind of cute. The reality is that EVs are coming whether you like it or not. Industry and global governments have already made this choice and are making the changes and implementations now for the changeover in the next couple of decades. The sex change is already underway. There's no going backwards as much as some might believe.

You can debate about it all you want but you're just spending your breath for a moot point.

 

[SLINGSHOT]

Governments and manufacturers are backing off.

 

[tom_tucker]

Governments and manufacturers are backing off.

Only 1 neighbor, out of 12 small SFH's on my court has an EV. The guys is sharp, works for Microsoft geek type. Even installed a charger which he bought on the sly from a commercial firm in a warehouse. I signed off on it and HOA approved. True story.

BTW- What would happen (to the grid) if all 13 little houses had chargers?

The guy has a Nissan Leaf of course. He never goes anywhere on the weekend and no sports. We're complete opposites. Meanwhile, us Maverick owners are truckin' 5-600 miles on the weekend to rural destinations with boats, bikes, etc. No time for charging.

So there you go. Fleet vehicles and nerds. That's your Maverick EV market.

 

[bbhaag]

Or people who like to be able to drive when it's cold out. Its a pretty major flaw EVs have currently. They can use their own energy to keep the battery hot enough to react but you wouldnt want to rely on them for an emergency. Which hurts. Hybrids get around this EV flaw and the range flaw by including a generator.

The temperature one in particular constricts sales outside perpetually warm areas. Which doesnt sound bad til its -4 outside and you need to get out.

Well if the fine people of Norway can figure it out surely us Americans can.....but mis information seems to be the hot topic in this thread.

For anyone really interested in an EV follow the data, not the naysayers.

https://www.teslarati.com/electric-car-cold-weather-fears/

 

[OneAlienBoi]

An electric Maverick would not be 25 to 30k. 25 to 30 k is base pricing for a gas or hybrid Maverick now. It would be 35 to 40 at minimum as an electric variant would be the most expensive you could get. In any case don't expect one anytime soon.

There will be unibody electric pickup from Ford which is smaller than the current Lightning, they've already announced it. It's more likely to be a midsize however.

That price target is coming from Ford directly. The mach-e is a sporty, luxurious midsized crossover that as of a few days ago, starts at less than 40k. If Ford can get away with selling a mach-e for 39k, they can probably find a way to sell a small, affordable EV for 30k or less.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

Only 1 neighbor, out of 12 small SFH's on my court has an EV. The guys is sharp, works for Microsoft geek type. Even installed a charger which he bought on the sly from a commercial firm in a warehouse. I signed off on it and HOA approved. True story.

BTW- What would happen (to the grid) if all 13 little houses had chargers?

The guy has a Nissan Leaf of course. He never goes anywhere on the weekend and no sports. We're complete opposites. Meanwhile, us Maverick owners are truckin' 5-600 miles on the weekend to rural destinations with boats, bikes, etc. No time for charging.

So there you go. Fleet vehicles and nerds. That's your Maverick EV market.

Car enthusiasts and people who want sensible, reliable commuter vehicles, those are additional demographics for hybrid and EV buyers. EVs are perfect as daily A to B vehicles, very low costs of ownership, refined, last basically forever, and yes, that includes the batteries. They're what mainstream consumers want. The issue is many mainstream consumers are misinformed about evs, same goes for hybrids.

Not only are EVs and hybrids good for casual buyers, they're great for car obsessed enthusiasts like myself. EVs are how you make normal commuter cars fun to drive. Great low end acceleration, decent handling with a little body roll.

There are a lot of people who want EVs. Just not a 90k massive EV truck. An EV small crossover, hatchback, or truck for daily trips to keep commuting cheap, and a V8 powered muscle car for weekend fun would be a dream two car garage for me.

 

[The-X]

Well if the fine people of Norway can figure it out surely us Americans can.....but mis information seems to be the hot topic in this thread.

For anyone really interested in an EV follow the data, not the naysayers.

https://www.teslarati.com/electric-car-cold-weather-fears/

You have to do one of two things
plug it in to heat the batteries
or let the batteries eat their charge to heat themselves. But if you don't have it set up to do that or run out of charge while the batteries eat themselves, that's when you run into problems. It's a reactant problem, it's basically the same reason you freeze food. It slows down the chemistry.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

An electric Maverick would not be 25 to 30k. 25 to 30 k is base pricing for a gas or hybrid Maverick now. It would be 35 to 40 at minimum as an electric variant would be the most expensive you could get. In any case don't expect one anytime soon.

There will be unibody electric pickup from Ford which is smaller than the current Lightning, they've already announced it. It's more likely to be a midsize however.

I should clarify that 25-30k price is coming from a Ford employee. We'll see if they can actually hit those figures. I didn't believe it at first either, but they seem to be pretty confident at achieving those numbers, or close to them.

Now, this 25k EV could be some small hatchback or sedan. But credible insiders have said this affordable platform is mostly being used for a bronco sport, and maverick. So who knows by this point.

How will they manage to achieve that price? No clue. My guess is repurposing and reusing most of the existing components from the current maverick and bronco sport to keep the cost of developing these EVs low.

 

[WesM]

Ford claimed they lost $36k on every EV they sold last quarter... how in the world do you think they will produce a low cost EV when they are losing money on high dollar EVs? This is definitely a I will believe it when I see it kinda thing.

As for if I would buy one at $25k-$30k and the $7500 tax credit still exists... if the things are not flaming death traps (which at that price point, I would be pretty worried) then yeah I would probably buy one. I commute 110 miles a day, so an EV would save me a lot of money.

I'm in a unique situation though, where the EV mav would be a commuter vehicle only (and occasional home depot/lowes run), we have a RAV4 for if we want to take trips places outside the comfortable range of an EV.

 

[2020 GT500]

I know I would, probably to go alongside our hybrid. This is Ford's affordable electric vehicle platform, internally called CE1, created by a very talented team of ex apple and Tesla engineers. It's apparently going to be used for an electric maverick and bronco sport, likely other vehicles as well.

I know 25-30k seems too good to be true, but Ford seems very committed to delivering at this price point.

He’ll….no. Can’t even keep the hybrid electric vehicles out of the shop especially the Maverick hybrid. Be my guest if you would like to complicate your life more than it probably already is but not me dinosaurs rule the Earth until they figure out how to make electrons flow without errors!

 

[SLINGSHOT]

You have to do one of two things
plug it in to heat the batteries
or let the batteries eat their charge to heat themselves. But if you don't have it set up to do that or run out of charge while the batteries eat themselves, that's when you run into problems. It's a reactant problem, it's basically the same reason you freeze food. It slows down the chemistry.

Many, many, MANY years ago, we used to put batteries in the refrigerator so we could have a fresh battery without having to go to the store. Of course, you had to give them time to warm up. Newspaper photographers would grab enough for their camera and put them in their pocket to reheat just in case the ones in the flash unit died. You didn't want to go to an accident or the state tournament and not have battery power.
Most people knew about this for a long time. It took a cold spell last month to educate Elon and Detroit.
500 miles batteries are right up there with the 100 mpg carburetor,

 

[The-X]

Many, many, MANY years ago, we used to put batteries in the refrigerator so we could have a fresh battery without having to go to the store. Of course, you had to give them time to warm up. Newspaper photographers would grab enough for their camera and put them in their pocket to reheat just in case the ones in the flash unit died. You didn't want to go to an accident or the state tournament and not have battery power.
Most people knew about this for a long time. It took a cold spell last month to educate Elon and Detroit.
500 miles batteries are right up there with the 100 mpg carburetor,

Well you "can" get a 100mpg carb.... on a moped
and you "can" get a 500 mile battery, if you don't want a bed on your truck :v

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