Updated TSB for 2.5L Hybrid engine shudder

[MortyHooper]

Finally, I hope this works, excited to get the truck in to get it fixed up.

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[Bobbydontchaknow]

I had this tsb completed on my maverick hybrid MY23. I had the first version. Apparently there was a revised version a couple days after I had it done. I have not had the horrible shudder like I used to. It’s a totally different truck. If your mav doesn’t do it now it might not. If it does there is a fix! I was so close to trading it in. It felt it was unsafe. The last 2 weeks I felt like I got a new car as it drove so smoothly now. Night/day different

 

[Maverick2023]

Experienced the shudder yesterday for the first time in almost a year since I got my maverick. It only happened 2 times but very noticeable. Not sure if the problem could be replicated by the dealer.

 

[jodiemon]

just got this done seems to worker better now

 

[scotty]

Sorry. I didn't add anything. I think it's stupid to repost your (or anyone's) entire block of text to know it's in reply to you. @FriscoTXJoe would work better. Nobody is going to reread the post again and nobody needs the entire post on their screen twice. It looks dumb when every reply in a thread contains a massive quote.

It's just personal netiquette of mine. Only quote the relevant parts or the parts I am referring to/replying to. Like quoting a source in a university paper... You only quote the important part not an entire page/paragraph of the source.

"stupid" quite harsh word. Let's help one another.

 

[RatherBeDrivingaManual]

"stupid" quite harsh word.

Stupid = not the best//smartest use of the quote function.

I wouldn't say my use of the word stupid is harsh. It was not descriptive//detailed.

 

[Stock411]

Mines going in next week.

There was always a shudder when the engine was cold or the temp Guage is 1/4 of the way. When it's fully warmed up or I can drive on a flat without slowing down to where the engine shuts off, its fine.

Will post follow up once completed.

 

[Old Ford Guy]

Hi there. Can you send us a DM with your VIN and dealership info? I can look into this for you.

Hi there yourselves, it's always nice to hear you folks from Ford are paying attention now & then

 

[OneAlienBoi]

My truck had the engine shuddering, grabby brakes, and infotainment issues. My local dealer picked it up mid-June and had it for two days. They could not find any mechanical issues, but they did update/reset the PCM software. I was skeptical and annoyed that was all they could/would do.

It has been nearly six weeks now and the shuddering and braking issue has not returned.

If you experience any shuddering, take the time to get this done. Insist they do it and bring a printed version of the TSB so they are informed. My truck was in the shop BEFORE this TSB but because my tech understood the issue, he got me straight. He said that on my first oil change they can update it again if needed. I will insist they do this even if I'm not seeing the issue again.

Unfortunately, the infotainment system is still crap. Hopefully one day Ford sends out a significant update for that.

So this single update addressed the shuttering and grabby brakes?

 

[jeffml222]

So this single update addressed the shuttering and grabby brakes?

It made a huge difference. I would describe the brakes as sensitive and slightly grabby. I would not consider it a persistent issue anymore. The shuddering issue is all but gone, only popping up slightly and sporadically over the past few months.

The issue is related to the PCM (Powertrain Control Module). My tech described what they did as a reset of the PCM because what they are seeing is that for whatever reason the software that is controlling these things gets wonky. A reset to factory helps but he warned that over time it may come back until Ford issues a true fix and update.

There is a recall to be aware of. I have copied it below. There is no fix yet, but I have seen speculation online that this recall and future fix is directly related to our issues with brakes and maybe the shuddering too. Fingers crossed it helps. You can check your truck for recalls here: https://www.ford.com/support/recalls/

Recalls *

Reprogram powertrain control module
Recall Incomplete, remedy not yet available
Description
Reprogram powertrain control module
Campaign#
23E09

 

[23grayXLT84]

It made a huge difference. I would describe the brakes as sensitive and slightly grabby. I would not consider it a persistent issue anymore. The shuddering issue is all but gone, only popping up slightly and sporadically over the past few months.

The issue is related to the PCM (Powertrain Control Module). My tech described what they did as a reset of the PCM because what they are seeing is that for whatever reason the software that is controlling these things gets wonky. A reset to factory helps but he warned that over time it may come back until Ford issues a true fix and update.

There is a recall to be aware of. I have copied it below. There is no fix yet, but I have seen speculation online that this recall and future fix is directly related to our issues with brakes and maybe the shuddering too. Fingers crossed it helps. You can check your truck for recalls here: https://www.ford.com/support/recalls/

Recalls *

Reprogram powertrain control module
Recall Incomplete, remedy not yet available
Description
Reprogram powertrain control module
Campaign#
23E09

There are no new recalls on the NHTSA website and I think the recall you are thinking of with remedy not yet available is the engine fire one.

 

[jeffml222]

There are no new recalls on the NHTSA website and I think the recall you are thinking of with remedy not yet available is the engine fire one.

Just to clarify, I am not claiming that Recall 23E09 - Reprogram powertrain control module - is a new recall or that it will address issues with the brakes or shudder. I am only mentioning that I have seen some speculation online that whenever the PCM reprogram comes, it might also fix those issues.

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