So, someone explain this…

[Vince30]

When individuals go from a truck to a car in their purchase, to me it seems like there is something missing. It looks like mpg’s was the main criteria. I wanted this truck and nothing else.

Mpg's are definitely my main criteria. As much as I'd like to move on from the inconvenience of hooking up a trailer every Saturday to take my bike to the track, I'm not willing to get something that gets half the mpg when I don't need to have a bed Monday through Friday.

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[MakinDoForNow]

Sure. I definitely get that if they are really orders.

But why do they list 21 Mavericks available in their sales inventory then if they are actually all orders? Heck, they have 3 listed as specials in their "Winter Sale Collection." It just doesn't seem right.

I think that when they are delivered to dealer the are put into dealers inventory by Ford. They are not necessarily available for sale. It does appear that some dealers may adjust status or perhaps those listed as specials might actually be ones that actually had a discount or rebate? It boils down to a problem we have to deal with and increases ours and their "on phone time".

 

[Stive]

Mpg's are definitely my main criteria. As much as I'd like to move on from the inconvenience of hooking up a trailer every Saturday to take my bike to the track, I'm not willing to get something that gets half the mpg when I don't need to have a bed Monday through Friday.

I didn’t see your mpgs, but the OP was saying his car gets 48.9. My Mav hybrid gets avg 43 so way off of half in your comment. If you have electric, then yes, your option fits you.

 

[KevCuRaoi]

Sure. I definitely get that if they are really orders.

But why do they list 21 Mavericks available in their sales inventory then if they are actually all orders? Heck, they have 3 listed as specials in their "Winter Sale Collection." It just doesn't seem right.

I have no knowledge of the situation at that particular dealership. But in general, vehicles show up in a dealer's "inventory" when they are "invoiced" (1-2 weeks before build dates). Dealership website's pull from this inventory feed automatically.
Dealers can manually exclude individual vehicles from their inventory showing up on their website...but many just allow them to show up.

The "winter sales collection" might also be populated automatically based on "rules" (vehicle age, etc).

Or they may be including them on purpose to draw traffic to the dealership / in case a custmer backs out.

 

[Vince30]

I didn’t see your mpgs, but the OP was saying his car gets 48.9. My Mav hybrid gets avg 43 so way off of half in your comment. If you have electric, then yes, your option fits you.

I'm just saying, for cross-shopping vehicles other than the maverick, I prioritize fuel economy over having something with a bed. I'd rather get 38mpg and use a trailer than get 20mpg and have a bed. The Mav hybrid does both and it's alone in doing so, so if I need something before getting my mav it probably won't be a truck.

 

[NoVaJimmy]

Those probably really are ordered Mavericks for customers and it sounds like your dealer is doing right by those who ordered them by not letting others test drive it. I would be pretty upset if I found out the dealer was letting customers drive it before I could pick it up. It would rub me the wrong way to know someone even sat in it!

But orders fall through, dealer stock comes in, that isn't the only Ford dealer around. Do you have to seek out the test drive a little? Absolutely, but you can definitely do it. I've driven a Maverick a handful of times now when I stopped by the dealer for my Bronco or saw one sitting on the lot and cut a hard right into the dealership.

Turo is a good resource, there are so many Mavericks on Turo near me. It's a pretty cheap way to test drive one for a full day rather than have to deal with a short test drive probably with a salesperson in the vehicle with you.

 

[KevCuRaoi]

I was going to reply to the first part, but then I saw you pretty much covered my response with your second part.

I will add, “we have no control over that” is an oft repeated fib that dealers tell customers.

Or the person who is telling that to customers doesn't know how to do it!

And this has changed recently. Until a couple of years ago, units ordered retail wouldn't show up on the website until they had been physically at the dealer for a certain amount of time (perhaps 30-60 days?), and then they would show up on the website. Sometime in 2020 as inventory shortages started, I noticed that retail vehicles showed up on our website as soon as they were invoiced just like stock vehicles.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

@ OP
No snarky comment here, just a question. Did you look at the Hyundai Santa Cruz? If so, why not one of those?

He wanted a Hybrid.

 

[JimParker256]

Sure. I definitely get that if they are really orders.

But why do they list 21 Mavericks available in their sales inventory then if they are actually all orders? Heck, they have 3 listed as specials in their "Winter Sale Collection." It just doesn't seem right.

Find one for sale at CarMax or Carvana, and go test drive it. Yeah, it will be a "used" one, but they don't sit or drive any different than a new one...

 

[skadizzle]

Turo is a good resource, there are so many Mavericks on Turo near me. It's a pretty cheap way to test drive one for a full day rather than have to deal with a short test drive probably with a salesperson in the vehicle with you.

I was actually going to say the same thing. I wasn't able to find a Maverick available to test drive so I went on Turo and rented a Maverick for a couple days locally. The guy I rented from said someone right before me did the same thing. You get a better feel for the truck that way too.

 

[BradnChristine]

I have no knowledge of the situation at that particular dealership. But in general, vehicles show up in a dealer's "inventory" when they are "invoiced" (1-2 weeks before build dates). Dealership website's pull from this inventory feed automatically.
Dealers can manually exclude individual vehicles from their inventory showing up on their website...but many just allow them to show up.

Maybe my dealership is doing it right. Invoice date was 1/4/23, modules populated and Sync updated on 1/12/23 and it still doesn't appear on my dealer's inventory at Ford.

 

[Waterick]

I am a long hauler, and ....
Around early December, I started seeing trucks delivered that were ordered in the one week window orders were opened, while I still had a fake build date (I think it was January 9th- whatever day it was I had to call my dealer and tell them how to convert my order to 2023 so they could sell me less than what I had ordred 16 months prior, and folks with new orders were getting their trucks)...

Here's a way Ford could have prevented this. They should have allowed all the unbuilt my22s to be built as my23s until all were built. Meaning my22 options and colors would be manufactured requiring no revalidation. After all were built only then should they have been configured to my23 specs. There are many other ways Ford should have been able to prevent new orders from being built before older orders without holding up production. This is one idea on how they should go forward next time. IMO.

 

[KevCuRaoi]

Maybe my dealership is doing it right. Invoice date was 1/4/23, modules populated and Sync updated on 1/12/23 and it still doesn't appear on my dealer's inventory at Ford.

Yes, my guess is that they are manually "suppressing" retail VINs from showing up on the website!

 

[KevCuRaoi]

A bit off topic, but do you guys use VIN View at your dealership?

VINView is fairly new. We have recently started using it. I haven't had too much experience with it myself yet!

 

[ripperAZ]

It’s called supply and demand in a market affected by constraints and obviously those who are going to buy at a higher price Will get it quicker. The dealer model in allocations allows that to happen and it’s not going away until they go to in Internet only model like Tesla Just saying there’s nothing anyone can do about it it’s how business works. Dealers have the upper hand in massaging allocations to max profits.

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