Slip sliding away

[710-oil-614]

My wife's 2022 Malibu Premium is parked right next to my Lariat. It does as well as the Lariat. You all are doing a disservice talking about an AWD performing spectacularly on deep snow. It may be a little better than a car but doesn't compare to a 4WD. One of you showed his Maverick driving on plowed roads as if that is something special. My wife's Malibu can drive a plowed road and holds it's own against the Lariat in my drive way. The Colorados and Tacomas I have owned would humiliate any Maverick with the possible exception of an FX4 or Tremor which I know nothing about at this point. I know of no set of tires that will make an AWD perform like a true 4WD.

I do. Any good set of ATs would correct your issue. AWD is engaged up to 13mph and anytime slipping is detected.

Lack of traction isn’t the fault of AWD, it’s the fault of your crappy all season Michelins on there.

But go ahead and sell it and get that 26 Tremor with 4K tow

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[Lone Ridr]

I do. Any good set of ATs would correct your issue. AWD is engaged up to 13mph and anytime slipping is detected.

Lack of traction isn’t the fault of AWD, it’s the fault of your crappy all season Michelins on there.

But go ahead and sell it and get that 26 Tremor with 4K tow

I'll get rid of the crappy truck.

 

[MavStangVa]

I'll get rid of the crappy truck.

I suggest a Yugo. It is literally in the name!

 

[Timothyd]

I think y'all need to move a couple hundred miles south . .

Best thing I've heard all day. Thinking of a few hundred miles south to Missouri. I'd only have my snow tires on for 2 or 3 months.

 

[dochawk]

I suggest a Yugo. It is literally in the name!

Speaking of false advertising . . .

 

[Lone Ridr]

I do. Any good set of ATs would correct your issue. AWD is engaged up to 13mph and anytime slipping is detected.

Lack of traction isn’t the fault of AWD, it’s the fault of your crappy all season Michelins on there.

But go ahead and sell it and get that 26 Tremor with 4K tow

Southern Indiana averages 10 to 12 inches of snow a season. I do not use all terrain tires. I use all season tires. The 2017 Tacoma TRD Sport I traded in on my 2024 Maverick came equipped with Firestone Destination LE2 all-season highway tires. On September 11, 2023, I replaced the tires with Goodyear Wrangler Steadfast HT all-season tires at a cost of $1150.00.

I live in a rural area on a dead-end street. There is no trash pickup, I drive to the land fill at least once a week. I have a 6 Ft. x 12 Ft utility trailer to haul my Can Am Spyder (combined weight 2100 pounds). I need a truck and have always owned one, many, actually. I have always chosen all season tires in the 43 years that I have lived in my current location. I don’t like road noise. I like a smooth ride. I don’t live in the snow belt. 99.8% of my driving is on smooth roads. I will not keep 2 sets of tires for the Maverick even though I have the original wheels stored in the garage. I consider this option a total waste of money. I plan on purchasing Goodyear Eagle RS-A 245/55R18 all season tires once the factory Michelin tires are worn down. I have always been able to negotiate my driveway and surrounding roads with all season tires without difficulty. Until now.

Some “experts” have advised that I need all terrain tires to cure the slipping/sliding that is now occurring in my driveway. I have posted full scale pictures on page 8 of this thread. I made several passes so wifey’s Malibu can come and go. If you examine them, you will see many clearly defined tire tread patterns in the snow. You can also see “divots” where the tires have broken loose and changed the tracking of the truck. There were 10 to fifteen sets of divots in the driveway. There are numerous perfect tread imprints around the 200 yards of driveway. There is a divot pictured underneath the rear bumper of the truck on totally flat ground with perfect tread patterns running alongside and underneath the truck.

I studied the tracks long and hard. Good tire connection with break-away divots. I believe the problem is the computer control program, not the tires. I tried different drive modes to no avail. In December, I looked at a used 2025 Tremor in Louisville, Kentucky with 3000 miles priced at $37,500. The salesman said the guy owned it 2 months and realized he needed a Ranger (Hint, Hint). He offered $32,500 for my truck. I told him I can’t give up my 4K tow. He said what would it take to make a trade. Remembering what the salesman said about the original owner, I said I’ll keep my truck.

So, will Ford offer a 4K tow package for the tremor? IMO, Not without a total redesign of the differential/clutch packs. My research shows that differential underfilling notwithstanding, the clutch packs overheat and fail. Yes, the Maverick is a weenie truck. However, I prefer it over the Tacoma I traded in. I like the bells and whistles but the deciding factor was when I was trying to get into the truck after a Colts football game, my 50-year-old son asked if I wanted help getting into the truck. 20/20 hindsight, maybe I should have lowered the Tacoma. Nah, I like the smaller truck with the bells and whistles.

On a positive note, the truck was loaded to the hilt with firewood. My spreadsheet for partially green 1.5 feet X 4 feet x 4 feet wood was 1300 pounds. The truck handled it well with the exception being it wanted to stray from one side of the lane to the other. I had to be more attentive driving home.

My original intent with this post was to come to the aid of the original poster. He is right. The Maverick has issues handling snow. BTW, I don’t consider 6 inches of snow a large amount. I am on this site to share and learn. On this Slip Sliding issue, I didn’t ask for any of your ill advice or opinions. I was a certified mechanic and shop foreman. I am a vet with PTSD issues, easily irritated. I consider your unsolicited comments harassment. Kindly take your comments elsewhere.

 

[710-oil-614]

Southern Indiana averages 10 to 12 inches of snow a season. I do not use all terrain tires. I use all season tires. The 2017 Tacoma TRD Sport I traded in on my 2024 Maverick came equipped with Firestone Destination LE2 all-season highway tires. On September 11, 2023, I replaced the tires with Goodyear Wrangler Steadfast HT all-season tires at a cost of $1150.00.

I live in a rural area on a dead-end street. There is no trash pickup, I drive to the land fill at least once a week. I have a 6 Ft. x 12 Ft utility trailer to haul my Can Am Spyder (combined weight 2100 pounds). I need a truck and have always owned one, many, actually. I have always chosen all season tires in the 43 years that I have lived in my current location. I don’t like road noise. I like a smooth ride. I don’t live in the snow belt. 99.8% of my driving is on smooth roads. I will not keep 2 sets of tires for the Maverick even though I have the original wheels stored in the garage. I consider this option a total waste of money. I plan on purchasing Goodyear Eagle RS-A 245/55R18 all season tires once the factory Michelin tires are worn down. I have always been able to negotiate my driveway and surrounding roads with all season tires without difficulty. Until now.

Some “experts” have advised that I need all terrain tires to cure the slipping/sliding that is now occurring in my driveway. I have posted full scale pictures on page 8 of this thread. I made several passes so wifey’s Malibu can come and go. If you examine them, you will see many clearly defined tire tread patterns in the snow. You can also see “divots” where the tires have broken loose and changed the tracking of the truck. There were 10 to fifteen sets of divots in the driveway. There are numerous perfect tread imprints around the 200 yards of driveway. There is a divot pictured underneath the rear bumper of the truck on totally flat ground with perfect tread patterns running alongside and underneath the truck.

I studied the tracks long and hard. Good tire connection with break-away divots. I believe the problem is the computer control program, not the tires. I tried different drive modes to no avail. In December, I looked at a used 2025 Tremor in Louisville, Kentucky with 3000 miles priced at $37,500. The salesman said the guy owned it 2 months and realized he needed a Ranger (Hint, Hint). He offered $32,500 for my truck. I told him I can’t give up my 4K tow. He said what would it take to make a trade. Remembering what the salesman said about the original owner, I said I’ll keep my truck.

So, will Ford offer a 4K tow package for the tremor? IMO, Not without a total redesign of the differential/clutch packs. My research shows that differential underfilling notwithstanding, the clutch packs overheat and fail. Yes, the Maverick is a weenie truck. However, I prefer it over the Tacoma I traded in. I like the bells and whistles but the deciding factor was when I was trying to get into the truck after a Colts football game, my 50-year-old son asked if I wanted help getting into the truck. 20/20 hindsight, maybe I should have lowered the Tacoma. Nah, I like the smaller truck with the bells and whistles.

On a positive note, the truck was loaded to the hilt with firewood. My spreadsheet for partially green 1.5 feet X 4 feet x 4 feet wood was 1300 pounds. The truck handled it well with the exception being it wanted to stray from one side of the lane to the other. I had to be more attentive driving home.

My original intent with this post was to come to the aid of the original poster. He is right. The Maverick has issues handling snow. BTW, I don’t consider 6 inches of snow a large amount. I am on this site to share and learn. On this Slip Sliding issue, I didn’t ask for any of your ill advice or opinions. I was a certified mechanic and shop foreman. I am a vet with PTSD issues, easily irritated. I consider your unsolicited comments harassment. Kindly take your comments elsewhere.

This is a forum where I am free to offer my unsolicited advice, it is not harassment.

Kindly select the ignore button if you cannot handle the comments of an individual member.

And thank you for your service.

 

[ShadowBlack XL440]

When I first got my driver's license ages ago, I took the lessons in winter with heavy snow I'm very used to winter driving. The Mav is fine in heavy rain, but our 2017 fwd fusion feels more planted in the snow. Shame that it seems it's just that the factory tires are shit.

Nailed it. The factory tires are CRAP. Lucky you have gotten 11K miles out of them. Check the tread depth and air pressure, both are critical.

 

[710-oil-614]

You missed blanking out one of your plates....

 

[Timothyd]

I do. Any good set of ATs would correct your issue. AWD is engaged up to 13mph and anytime slipping is detected.

Lack of traction isn’t the fault of AWD, it’s the fault of your crappy all season Michelins on there.

But go ahead and sell it and get that 26 Tremor with 4K tow

My Mav (FWD) came with some crappy
Continentals and now, good snow tires have made a big difference for the winter. I used to carry tire chains, this winter I didn't bother. Driving through upper Wisconsin in a snowstorm I did just fine. If my Maverick wasn't my primary ride I would have considered AWD but I'm pretty happy with the great MPGs.

 

[710-oil-614]

My Mav (FWD) came with some crappy
Continentals and now, good snow tires have made a big difference for the winter. I used to carry tire chains, this winter I didn't bother. Driving through upper Wisconsin in a snowstorm I did just fine. If my Maverick wasn't my primary ride I would have considered AWD but I'm pretty happy with the great MPGs.

Only 2mpg difference between FWD and AWD. For me that was well worth it especially to get get independent rear suspension.

 

[Ryom]

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