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I fully understand how EPA ratings work, to the point that I also understand that the EPA doesn't actually test the vast majority of new vehicles (Only about 15% are actually tested by the EPA). Manufacturers test them and the EPA takes their word and sometimes winds up testing a specific vehicle and can and will challenge the manufacturer. Also, most manufacturers test pre-production units for EPA ratings and who knows why or how Ford came up with the Tremor estimates especially if it was a pre-production unit.
Where did I say the EPA tests all new cars? It doesn't matter who actually does the testing. It's a standardized testing protocol in a controlled environment so it's reliable, replicable, and valid.
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The guys from TexasTruck youtube gave their real world MPG's during their test.
Thanks, I think I had skipped that one. They got 19/24. Not sure if that was a pre-production vehicle, but it seems like they did a pretty thorough review.
 

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EPA estimates are based on five controlled and standardized fuel consumption tests. OP asked for real world tremor results even if you hypothesize there's no difference, the actual data suggests otherwise.
EPA estimates, sure sounds like a hypothesis to me. EPA ratings by their nature are based on limited data.
never had a Ford vehicle get worse than the estimate, some considerably better
 

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EPA estimates, sure sounds like a hypothesis to me. EPA ratings by their nature are based on limited data.
never had a Ford vehicle get worse than the estimate, some considerably better
It may sound that way to you, but estimate=/=hypothesis. EPA estimates are based on limited data, but the difference is that it's controlled and standardized data. Good job beating the estimates. The EPA itself says that individual results will vary because every driving scenario is unique. EPA estimates, as they state, are intended for comparison.
 

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It may sound that way to you, but estimate=/=hypothesis. EPA estimates are based on limited data, but the difference is that it's controlled and standardized data. Good job beating the estimates. The EPA itself says that individual results will vary because every driving scenario is unique. EPA estimates, as they state, are intended for comparison.
well there you go, "individual results will vary" now we've circled back to what the OP originally asked for.
 

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Where did I say the EPA tests all new cars? It doesn't matter who actually does the testing. It's a standardized testing protocol in a controlled environment so it's reliable, replicable, and valid.
If it's so standard then how do you explain the fact that the EPA sometimes requires manufacturers to revise their estimates because they "spot checked" and found that the manufacturer's results were outside their allowable deviation? Like I said, I agree with OP who is asking for real world mileage. The EPA didn't even test the Tremor, it's Ford's estimate and they may have their reasons for assigning a lower EPA rating to that package. This shouldn't even be a discussion, OP asked for real world mileage not a data chart based on estimates.
 

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Thanks, I think I had skipped that one. They got 19/24. Not sure if that was a pre-production vehicle, but it seems like they did a pretty thorough review.
So out of curiosity, is 24mpg out of city enough to make you stick with the Tremor? Most of miles are highway, so I think I'll stick with.
 

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Got 24.5mpg at 85mph on highway with my Tremor
That's damn good for 85.......bring that down to 65-70 and I guarantee you'll see at least 28-30.
 
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So out of curiosity, is 24mpg out of city enough to make you stick with the Tremor? Most of miles are highway, so I think I'll stick with.
I think so. I just am glad to hear it’s not looking consistently worse than the 24 hwy rating.
 
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Got 24.5mpg at 85mph on highway with my Tremor
If you see better at 70, please update us as well. Thanks for your feedback!
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